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    Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 29 Jul 2020

    Pinboard Retweeted Allan Smith

    Google's monopoly power over who gets to send email is no joke. Try running a small email server and staying in Gmail's good graces. As in so many other areas (including the web), Google has made itself the de facto regulatory body over what was once a decentralized protocolhttps://twitter.com/akarl_smith/status/1288552266040049665 …

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    Where the tech hearing is at: GOP Rep. Greg Steube is asking Google CEO Sundar Pichai why his campaign emails are getting sent to people's spam folders in Gmail
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      2. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 29 Jul 2020

        Google will argue that it uses this regulatory power as a form of nerdesse oblige—fighting spam, securing the web by mandating the use of https, and so on. But it also clearly uses it for less noble ends, like the pressure on publishers to move to AMP or lose search ranking

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      3. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 29 Jul 2020

        Google's hold on internet infrastructure is so complete that in GDPR countries, you can't even (partially!) opt out of Google tracking without doing free labor for the company, by performing an image recognition task in reCaptcha

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      1. Dr. Izabella Laba‏ @ilaba 29 Jul 2020
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        I've had emails from @gazeta_wyborcza (that I actually subscribe to) going to my gmail spam folder for maybe a week now. Dawniej by sie pytalo kto za tym stoi, a teraz to zawsze wina algorytmu...

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      1. every cop is a policy failure‏ @Dr_Memory 29 Jul 2020
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        That kinda cuts both ways though: SMTP is exhibit B for all the things that will go wrong with a decentralized protocol on the open internet. (Source: me, was postmaster@mail.com once upon a time.) (Exhibit A: NNTP)

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      1. Martin A. Brooks‏ @mart_brooks 29 Jul 2020
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        Dealing with google and o365 was a significant factor in me shutting down one of the best anti-spam services on the planet.

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      2. limeonaire  🏳️‍🌈 🏳️‍⚧️ mask your nose + mouth now‏ @limeonaire 29 Jul 2020
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        But I mean, is this rep indeed spamming people? I wouldn't be surprised by that, and in that case, the filter is functioning. I can tell you, the GOP presidential campaign definitely is spamming. I got on one of the lists and the emails are continual and terrible and misspelled.

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      3. limeonaire  🏳️‍🌈 🏳️‍⚧️ mask your nose + mouth now‏ @limeonaire 29 Jul 2020
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        I guess what I'm saying is, both can be true. I hear you about the pressure they exert on small publishers and small operations of all kinds to conform to their tech directives—which may well be beyond the abilities of many who who would otherwise run their own sites and servers.

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