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    1. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 16 Jul 2020
      Replying to @NedGilmore

      It's not a criticism. It's a one-line (or four-panel) talisman that is not relevant to the point I'm making here

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    2. MO MONEY FO NURSES‏ @NedGilmore 16 Jul 2020
      Replying to @Pinboard

      It's perfectly relevant. AOC is in no position to play nice when she's this far out ahead of the rest of the pack. If she's not absolutely crushing the living fuck out of her own campaigns that is something that will be aggressively used against her.

      1 reply 0 retweets 11 likes
    3. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 16 Jul 2020
      Replying to @NedGilmore

      You don't need to run three million dollars of Facebook ads in a D+29 district. I don't know how else to put it. Her fundraising and spending are both a ridiculous indictment of a status quo, and she could lead by example with no harm to her prospects.

      3 replies 1 retweet 11 likes
    4. MO MONEY FO NURSES‏ @NedGilmore 16 Jul 2020
      Replying to @Pinboard

      If this sort of attitude actually held any real world value, we might still have a Sanders campaign. Sorry her virtue signaling isn't up to scratch, but I'm not convinced it's a complete indictment of her arguments for changing the system. She has the right goal. Meanwhile...

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    5. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 16 Jul 2020
      Replying to @NedGilmore

      I don't think you really understood my point

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    6. Rich Seymour‏ @rseymour 16 Jul 2020
      Replying to @Pinboard @NedGilmore

      She’s advertising not only to win votes but to build a war chest / her name. She’s overall gotten more than she’s spent. Good for her team. Solo campaign finance reform is not a winning play when the issues are systemic and primaries still happen.

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    7. MO MONEY FO NURSES‏ @NedGilmore 16 Jul 2020
      Replying to @rseymour @Pinboard

      Her 'job' is to prove that she's a top tier player, _nationally_. That's where her 'prospects' lie. That's why winning her seat with 72% of the vote kinda matters.

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    8. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 16 Jul 2020
      Replying to @NedGilmore @rseymour

      I understand this argument (from both of you) but I don't think it makes sense. You don't amass a war chest by spending millions out of it. And I don't think her margin of victory in her specific district will have any bearing on her wider political future

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    9. MO MONEY FO NURSES‏ @NedGilmore 16 Jul 2020
      Replying to @Pinboard @rseymour

      Point 2 probably explains point 1 in this. Do you invest in a candidate of dubious appeal to go on to a bigger role? Or would you feel happier investing in someone who was so far ahead that their primary result alone almost makes the case for them moving on to bigger things?

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    10. MO MONEY FO NURSES‏ @NedGilmore 16 Jul 2020
      Replying to @NedGilmore @Pinboard @rseymour

      Much of the (vapid) criticism of progressive candidates is that they're big on wild, pie-in-the-sky idea but they struggle with the basics of campaigning, etc, the stuff that 'wise' party insiders know instinctively and are obviously better at. Crushing that is important.

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      Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 16 Jul 2020
      Replying to @NedGilmore @rseymour

      The way you crush it, though, is demonstrating strength in a contested district. There's lots of politicians out at both ends of the spectrum who win with 80%+ majorities in a safe district, but would be toast in a bigger race. Winning by 90% in their safe seat doesn't change it

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        2. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 16 Jul 2020
          Replying to @Pinboard @NedGilmore @rseymour

          I agree completely that getting Americans nationally to give your campaign millions of dollars that you can keep for future use is a show of support and strength. It's the spending part of the equation that I disagree with you on

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        3. MO MONEY FO NURSES‏ @NedGilmore 16 Jul 2020
          Replying to @Pinboard @rseymour

          It's just come across as an awkward attack on a progressive politician, in the aftermath of a larger campaign where trying to live up to progressive values as a selling point did not in fact seem to particularly help out at the end of the day. The point about facebook is legit.

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        2. MO MONEY FO NURSES‏ @NedGilmore 16 Jul 2020
          Replying to @Pinboard @rseymour

          She won 72% in the primary tho. I know she's not going to lose her safe seat, that's not a good test of anything.

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        3. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 16 Jul 2020
          Replying to @NedGilmore @rseymour

          Frank Lucas won 83% in his last contested primary. Since then, his hold is so secure that no one will even challenge him. Is that proof of anything?

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        1. MO MONEY FO NURSES‏ @NedGilmore 16 Jul 2020
          Replying to @Pinboard @rseymour

          Come to think I'm not even sure this is a thing, particularly. Which particular presidential candidate proved their valor with a hard run through a highly contested seat? Especially when things are gerrymandered to fuck. Obama won 70% of his senate seat, even.

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