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    1. Rich Felker‏ @RichFelker 23 May 2020
      Replying to @RichFelker @taviso and

      Without repro builds, in practice even when vendors release source there are often no scripts to rebuild it. This isn't malice just a matter of it being hard to do right. Repro builds is a discipline to get it right. (GPL anticipated this problem back in the 80s, BTW.)

      1 reply 0 retweets 9 likes
    2. Rich Felker‏ @RichFelker 23 May 2020
      Replying to @RichFelker @taviso and

      If a router vendor ships their source that's a modified OpenWRT, but doesn't do repro build processes, do you think it's likely that the source actually matches the firmware blob you download from their site? :-)

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
    3. Tavis Ormandy‏Verified account @taviso 23 May 2020
      Replying to @RichFelker @matthew_d_green and

      Right, but you're saying "they might be breaking the law, and if they provide a reproducible build, we can check if they're breaking the law and sue them....." so, if they are breaking the law, why would they do that?

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    4. Rich Felker‏ @RichFelker 23 May 2020
      Replying to @taviso @matthew_d_green and

      No. I'm saying that you can check that there's not new vendor-induced bug surface outside the patch set and limit the scope of what needs audit to the patch set.

      1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
    5. Tavis Ormandy‏Verified account @taviso 23 May 2020
      Replying to @RichFelker @matthew_d_green and

      I deleted my last tweet, I think I misunderstood. I think you're saying there are code quality benefits to making your build reproducible, and you want developers to be better. OK, but you're mixing in security claims, I only really object to claims it prevents backdoors.

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    6. Rich Felker‏ @RichFelker 23 May 2020
      Replying to @taviso @matthew_d_green and

      Not just code quality but, when the product is derived from FOSS and you don't have reason to believe the vendor has ability to upstream bugdoors into the FOSS, significant benefits to the practicality of audit for bugdoors and unintentional added vulns.

      2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    7. Tavis Ormandy‏Verified account @taviso 23 May 2020
      Replying to @RichFelker @matthew_d_green and

      Sure, and I want a pony. Nobody is going to buy me one though, so why discuss it? 😛

      6 replies 0 retweets 12 likes
    8. halvarflake‏ @halvarflake 23 May 2020
      Replying to @taviso @RichFelker and

      Having not read the rest of the thread, I *am* tempted to buy you a pony, just to force you into discussing something that you don't want to discuss (I haven't even read what it is ;)

      2 replies 3 retweets 40 likes
    9. Matthew Green‏Verified account @matthew_d_green 23 May 2020
      Replying to @halvarflake @taviso and

      I’m in for $100.

      2 replies 0 retweets 12 likes
    10. Matthew Green‏Verified account @matthew_d_green 23 May 2020
      Replying to @matthew_d_green @halvarflake and

      I'm raising money for Buy a Pony for Tavis. Click to Donatehttps://www.gofundme.com/f/buy-a-pony-for-tavis?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=p_cf+share-flow-1 …

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      Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 23 May 2020
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        2. Matthew Green‏Verified account @matthew_d_green 23 May 2020
          Replying to @Pinboard @halvarflake and

          Contribute.

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        3. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 23 May 2020
          Replying to @matthew_d_green @halvarflake and

          I spent all my money on political horses

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