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    1. James Palmer‏ @BeijingPalmer 14 May 2020
      Replying to @BeijingPalmer @zeynep

      also of course this problem is *even worse* with academic papers where it's 'pay $60 for three days access to a single paper' and you just steal your buddy's jstor login anyway

      1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
    2. James Palmer‏ @BeijingPalmer 14 May 2020
      Replying to @BeijingPalmer @zeynep

      I subscribe to pretty much all the major papers and magazines save the NYT, but I still quite often want to read something in a local newspaper or smaller magazine

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 14 May 2020
      Replying to @BeijingPalmer

      I know right? Five years ago, I was puzzled how it didn't already exist.https://medium.com/message/spotify-but-for-the-titanic-a-proposal-for-the-future-of-news-and-publishing-40c41fbebe7b …

      2 replies 0 retweets 7 likes
    4. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 14 May 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @BeijingPalmer

      The pathologies at how this problem was addressed in the music business are worth looking at. The fundamental problem (as Clay Shirky pointed out I think in 2000 or so) is cognitive—people don't want to keep track of all this stuff, they just want payment to go to the right place

      3 replies 1 retweet 6 likes
    5. The Competence Tank Is Empty‏ @aspirational_no 14 May 2020
      Replying to @Pinboard @zeynep @BeijingPalmer

      I think calling it "cognitive" is unfairly dismissive, and that dismissiveness is more fundamental to the problem than it is a "cognitive" problem. Managing millions of micropayments is fundamentally complicated. It could be made superficially simple, but that takes lots of work.

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    6. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 14 May 2020
      Replying to @aspirational_no @zeynep @BeijingPalmer

      I disagree. We already have a de facto micropayment system deployed! Because of surveillance and ad-driven data bloat, in the US it costs a few pennies' worth of data plan to view any news article on a cell phone. But the money is captured by the ISP, not given to the publisher.

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    7. The Competence Tank Is Empty‏ @aspirational_no 14 May 2020
      Replying to @Pinboard @zeynep @BeijingPalmer

      That's not simple either, as some guy pointed out. https://idlewords.com/images/adtech.jpg … Imagining that you can steer an iceberg lik that so easily... that's the cognitive problem.

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    8. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 14 May 2020
      Replying to @aspirational_no @zeynep @BeijingPalmer

      Saying "this putative technology problem is really a human attention problem" is the schtick of everyone in this thread. Don't mess with us!

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    9. James Palmer‏ @BeijingPalmer 14 May 2020
      Replying to @Pinboard @aspirational_no @zeynep

      we should form a very nerdy gang

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    10. The Competence Tank Is Empty‏ @aspirational_no 14 May 2020
      Replying to @BeijingPalmer @Pinboard @zeynep

      underwhelming arm punches all around

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      Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 14 May 2020
      Replying to @aspirational_no @BeijingPalmer @zeynep

      Long arguments over how to split a tip jar that, on examination, turns out to be empty

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