This is a fun one from Jacobin. (Hint: there are at least three socialists in this photo)pic.twitter.com/NxwoTbw4iz
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But if you're really intellectually interested in workers' rights and why we can't have collectives and public ownership at the national level, just know that there's a pretty intellectually rigorous critique of socialism from the left, that argues this point about pluralism
If you are interested in transforming the relationship between the individual and the state in the direction of justice, and other people tried this but no one in history ever got it right, then study why they never got it right! It probably wasn't because you weren't around then
We so often talk past each other because one side argues about socialism as a means of organizing the economy, while the other side sees it as a system of power, in the name of the greater good. So we get: "Socialism in X devolved into tyranny" "Because it wasn't real socialism"
If anyone wants to seriously engage with this stuff, beyond six tweets from a jerkass bookmarking site, I highly recommend https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leszek_Ko%C5%82akowski …, or more approachably, whatever is available in English by Adam Michnik
Debating socialism on Twitter is like playing a chess game where the opponent eats your pieces, and then boasts that they are undefeated
If the Democratic Party would stop pretending that being Eisenhower was an alternative to the extreme right there might be more room for discussion there.
I'm still waiting to hear what the Weimar thing was about
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