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    Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 19 Apr 2020

    Pinboard Retweeted Christopher Shay

    The position on the left where attacking a totalitarian and mendacious government is equivalent to attacking its population baffles me extremely. We used to get this easy distinction right during the cold war. Even Sting understood it!https://twitter.com/ChrisBurkeShay/status/1251689551195713537 …

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    This is a devastatingly racist Biden ad. https://twitter.com/brianklaas/status/1251612252647624705 …
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      1. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 19 Apr 2020

        I think putting the devil horns on the Chinese government for this pandemic is kind of missing the point, but they certainly botched it and are a horrifying regime. I don't think the reductio ad racism applies here

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      1. The Dude‏ @the__dude98 19 Apr 2020
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        Hope they at least get something monetary out of it!

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      2. Roan Kattouw‏ @catrope 19 Apr 2020
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        One of the things the ad does is criticize the travel ban as ineffective because thousands of dirty disease-carrying foreigners from China were still let in. That part didn't exactly sit well with me 😬

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      3. Benjamin راغب‏ @benzado 19 Apr 2020
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        I believe the ad just said 40,000 people. I’m guessing they were mainly citizens and permanent residents who couldn’t be denied entry. How do you prevent people from hearing “dirty foreigners” when you’re trying to explain why the one early action he brags about was ineffective?

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      2. comixminx‏ @jinty 19 Apr 2020
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        Yeah, I think in the context where Chinese-Americans or people who ‘look Chinese’ are already being beaten up and vilified, it’s not going to sound to the listener as ‘blame the Chinese government’ so much as ‘blame the Chinese’. I think it’s going to do harm.

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      3. NelC‏ @NelC 19 Apr 2020
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        That kind of person doesn’t do nuance, though; they’re just looking for someone to beat up. They beat up Sikhs for being Arabs back after 9/11, and are beating up Koreans for being Chinese. Put as fine a point on it as you like, they’ll still use the blunt end to beat on someone.

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      1. conputer progamer‏ @davidcrespo 19 Apr 2020
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        it’s about the social context in the US, not just the words from the ad in isolation

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      1. swangmin‏ @swang 19 Apr 2020
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        I don't understand why you don't understand that it's not about the government, it's the fact that the way these ads are going to be interpreted in the US is going to lead to more violence against Asian people living in the US.

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      1. Andrew *Yang is an actual twat* Nguyen‏ @batwingdings 19 Apr 2020
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        As an Asian-American, thank you to all the comments here explaining why this ad is being met with backlash from many in our community. This isn't a "left position" - it's irresponsible messaging and dog whistle politics.

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      1. jsled  🧦‏ @joshsled 19 Apr 2020
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        It's perfectly reasonable to criticize the Chinese government for many reasons, of course. And this ad goes beyond that, into a rather obvious racism.

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