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    1. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 16 Apr 2020

      I still haven't seen many people connect these dots, so maybe I'm missing something obvious? * 20 million newly unemployed people in the past month * parts of country will stay locked down, others will reopen * therefore, we can expect Dust Bowl-like massive population shifts

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    2. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 16 Apr 2020

      If I'm an out-of-work waiter or hotel worker in NYC unable to make rent, what keeps me from going home to family somewhere where those jobs still exist?

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    3. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 16 Apr 2020

      So far the people we've seen in motion are the wealthy—billionaires fleeing to islands, the top 5% fleeing to summer homes. But the government is failing to provide timely relief to the working class, who will do what working people have always done in this situation—move

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    4. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 16 Apr 2020

      The policy situation is already starting to polarize along our usual political axis. That means there will be regions that stay open for ideological reasons, while others shut down. I just don't see how you keep people at home in this situation except by coercion

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    5. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 16 Apr 2020

      Can't recommend this book enough for people looking for historical analogieshttps://www.amazon.com/dp/B004H1UOSG/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1 …

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    6. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 16 Apr 2020

      The last month should convince you that just because you can't imagine something happening in America doesn't mean it won't happen if the circumstances favor it. I think this same failure of imagination is preventing us from taking radical measures today to save every job we can

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      Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 16 Apr 2020

      I'm getting a little pushback along the lines of, "sure, if you're PRIVILEGED, and have family, money, hotel money etc., you can leave." But I think history bears me out here—the poor will move in numbers if they can't survive where they are. You pack up and you go somewhere else

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        1. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 16 Apr 2020

          For those who want a test of whether this economic crisis will lead to mass migrations, I recommend keeping an eye on Las Vegas. This is one of the first places I'd expect to see large movements of people out of, since it's a tourist-based economy in the middle of the desert

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        2. James Palmer‏ @BeijingPalmer 16 Apr 2020
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          I'm skeptical that there will be the kind of jobs elsewhere that justify these moves - moving from the Dustbowl to a booming California is one thing, moving from somewhere with 40% unemployment to somewhere with 20% is another.

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        3. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 16 Apr 2020
          Replying to @BeijingPalmer

          It doesn't need to be jobs, it can be any gradient of well-being (social benefits, hospitals that aren't overwhelmed, milder weather in winter, availability of seasonal work, movement from a no-relief state to a high-relief state, movement away from disease hot spots)

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        2. ________________‏ @phillmv 16 Apr 2020
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          people at the very very bottom are stuck. but lotta people on the lowest rungs have just enough resources to get the hell out of dodge.

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        3. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 16 Apr 2020
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          People on the lowest rungs are also enormously resourceful and resilient

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        1. Connor Waldoch‏ @ConnorWaldoch 16 Apr 2020
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          Interesting for these events to coincide with what had been a low point in mobility, either the dam breaks, or those forces mean people are super stuck.https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/20/us/american-workers-moving-states-.html …

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        1. Derek of the Edmund Fitzgerald‏ @pantse_macabre 16 Apr 2020
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          States that "reopen" too early or have done a poor job of handling this pandemic and have job openings will be hit by a second wave of infections and deaths.

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        1. Miguel “enterprise metaverse” de Icaza‏ @migueldeicaza 16 Apr 2020
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          Good thread. I was thinking it was easier for remote-friendly workers to move out, as they come with a built-in job. Not sure about those that moved to the cities in need of a job.

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        2. Michelle Miller‏ @michelleimiller 16 Apr 2020
          Replying to @Pinboard

          Dust bowl has been the primary historical analogy in my head too. There's also more recent history to back this up if we look to outmigration from the coalfields in Appalachia. My anecdotal experience: ppl who lost jobs left, people with a little money got to stay put.

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        3. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 16 Apr 2020
          Replying to @michelleimiller

          Do you have reading recommendations, either for the dust bowl-era or more recently?

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