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    1. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 9 Apr 2020

      Another lawyer writing about coronavirus and technical surveillance. Everyone in this world references the Patriot Act without mentioning the enormous surveillance economy that grew up in wake of 9/11, orders of magnitude more invasive than sad NSA efforts https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/coronavirus-location-tracking-and-civil-liberties …pic.twitter.com/C7CKWaJW8k

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    2. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 9 Apr 2020

      Reading this stuff, you would think the great threat to privacy in the early 21st century came from US government wiretaps and a handful of FISA court orders rather than always-on internet connected home listening devices becoming a popular appliance for the busy parent

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    3. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 9 Apr 2020

      This policy debate needs lawyers like a hole in the head. Put the epidemiologists in a (virtual) room with the bottom-feeders of the location tracking ad world to find out what would be useful to track the pandemic. Distract the hand-wringing lawyers with something shiny.

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      Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 9 Apr 2020

      Honest question, as an opponent of the Patriot Act. What harm was done to American citizens by post-9/11 dragnet government surveillance? (For the purpose of this discussion, having to read @snowden's tweets about Bitcoin doesn't count as a harm)

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        1. wladimir‏ @nucholab 9 Apr 2020
          Replying to @Pinboard @Snowden

          *getting popcorn for when @quinnnorton comes to reply with righteous fury*

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        2. Chico Venancio‏ @chicocvenancio 9 Apr 2020
          Replying to @Pinboard @Snowden

          It would be nice for the the US to start doing contact tracing by the normal ways before resorting to mass surveillance, at least.

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        3. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 9 Apr 2020
          Replying to @chicocvenancio @Snowden

          The mass surveillance exists, right now, and is completely unregulated. That's what drives me nuts in this debate—no one is proposing we build anything new.

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        2. Raa'Shaun Hunter‏ @CardcaptorRLH85 9 Apr 2020
          Replying to @Pinboard @Snowden

          The courts in America tend to rule that "chilling effects" on speech are enough to invalidate a law on 1st amendment principles. Unfortunately, no case has gotten that far concerning the USA Patriot Act and the 4th amendment since proving standing is very difficult.

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        3. Raa'Shaun Hunter‏ @CardcaptorRLH85 9 Apr 2020
          Replying to @CardcaptorRLH85 @Pinboard @Snowden

          In order to prove standing, you need to prove that the government was spying on you but, since that is classified, you need to have standing to start discovery.

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        1. Michael Seemann‏Verified account @mspro 9 Apr 2020
          Replying to @Pinboard @Snowden

          well, what harm did corporate surveillance cause? (and no, the cambridge analytica snake oil doesn‘t count)

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        1. Chris Curtis‏ @curtosys 10 Apr 2020
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          I’d argue the erosion of the 4th Amendment protections. “Parallel construction” institutionalizes dishonesty and puts people in jail who would not be there if LE had to build a case without it.

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        1. Dave Flater‏ @DaveFlater 10 Apr 2020
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          First, violation of privacy is a VIOLATION. It is a harm in and of itself, a taking without consent. Then there are the consequences of sharing this private info with an ever-expanding set of trusted authorities: prejudice ex machina, with no notice much less recourse.

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