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    1. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 8 Apr 2020

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      The professional privacy crowd is being intentionally obtuse about the possible uses of location data in epidemiological tracking, as demonstrated in this white paper. Thread:https://twitter.com/granick/status/1247983480572534790 …

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      Let's stop talking about using location data to identify individuals that were in close contact and could have been infected by a person testing positive. It doesn't work: https://www.aclu.org/aclu-white-paper-limits-location-tracking-epidemic …
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      Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 8 Apr 2020

      As the paper explains, you phone is a surveillance device that works three ways. It talks to cell towers, it has a GPS thingy in it, and it potentially interacts with its environment (by bluetooth, wifi, photographing a QR code, etc) in ways that help determine location

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        2. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 8 Apr 2020

          The technical argument against contact tracing right now is that the resolution of these devices is not sufficient to figure out contact history. The phone knows you are at South Station, but not who you passed within six feet of. So it's useless, right?

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        3. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 8 Apr 2020

          But the point is we can use this data IN CONJUNCTION with all other methods, and we can use it to reduce the search space so that other, more labor intensive methods (like interviews) can be brought to bear. We also live in a surveillance society with things like camera footage

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        4. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 8 Apr 2020

          The correct way to look at this technical capability is not as a magic surveillance solution that replaces the hard work of contact tracing, but an additional tool, *already deployed at scale internationally*, that we can put in the hands of epidemiologists and doctors

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        5. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 8 Apr 2020

          In particular, phone based contact tracing can retroactively answer vital questions like "did anyone who attended this party that was a spreading event then fly to another city? Where did they go while infectious?" https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/23/us/coronavirus-westport-connecticut-party-zero.html …

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        6. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 8 Apr 2020

          It doesn't matter that your phone doesn't give pinpoint location data. The rough location data may already be enough to help investigators cut the possible number of contacts from tens of thousands to hundreds. And that is the kind of capability we need as we move to containment

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        7. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 8 Apr 2020

          Note that *in particular* this implies that measures that just do contact tracing, while trying to keep location ambiguous or undetermined, are not sufficient. We need the maximum resolution data these devices are already broadcasting to advertisers, platform owners, the GRU, etc

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        8. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 8 Apr 2020

          The more general problem with privacy advocates' arguments against technical measures is that they are not being made in good faith. They have a desired conclusion ("this doesn't even work!") based on their policy preferences, and they fit their thinking to meet it.

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        9. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 8 Apr 2020

          I'd be very curious to hear from people in the epidemiological world whether a data stream that let them track long-distance travel by infected people, and generate a list of potential contacts based on even rough proximity data, would be useful in containing this disease

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        10. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 8 Apr 2020

          There are all sorts of privacy arguments you can make for why we shouldn't do this kind of contact tracing. I'll fight you, but they're strong arguments! The technical arguments, however, are weaksauce. Anything that helps prune a list of potential contacts is better than nothing

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        11. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 8 Apr 2020

          A final point needs emphasis. The debate isn't how we use these technologies right now. There is no point to doing that until we've reached a state like Taiwan or South Korea, where it's back to tracking individual cases, and want to reopen the economy and resume normalish life

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        12. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 8 Apr 2020

          The upshot is this: for the first time in human history, we have a working, automated real-time and retroactive location tracking tool for something like 80% of the US population. Do we make it part of our pandemic response, or strictly limit it to data brokers and advertisers?

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