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    Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 6 Apr 2020

    Pinboard Retweeted Dr. Christine Eady Mann

    I'm sitting in Japan trying to understand this argument, and I fail. Japan has widespread mask use (upwards of 70% on public transit at least), but almost no testing, no lockdown or isolation measures for months, and most people here go around as if life is completely normal.https://twitter.com/DrChristineMann/status/1246262180766457857 …

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    2. There is no evidence that “mask-wearing countries” have lower rates of spread *because of* mask wearing. The countries that socially wear masks also instituted robust testing and isolation protocols, as well as widespread adherence to stay at home directives. Some even
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      1. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 6 Apr 2020

        The Japanese approach is to warn strongly against crowded settings in enclosed spaces where there is talking. So either the masks help or there is some other reason that this country, where there has been a total leadership vacuum at the national level, does not look like Italy.

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      2. Cloud Y. Leaf |  🍂‏ @cloudyip 6 Apr 2020
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        But then, Japan is getting worse? Just that it is still better than western countries?

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      3. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 6 Apr 2020
        Replying to @cloudyip

        Yes, that it took it so long to get bad despite almost no testing or interventions aside from mask use.

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      2. hack 🕴️2021‏ @hacklaw 6 Apr 2020
        Replying to @Pinboard

        Americans rather die than be proven wrong.

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      3. Shawn Furyan|Free Uighurs|BLM 🇭🇰 🇹🇼‏ @ShawnFuryan 6 Apr 2020
        Replying to @hacklaw @Pinboard

        why not both :sigh:

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      2. Kucco Song‏ @KuccoSong 6 Apr 2020
        Replying to @Pinboard

        Japan have twice as much ICU per capita than any other country, but population is also older, don’t like where it’s going....

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      3. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 6 Apr 2020
        Replying to @KuccoSong

        The trajectory is terrible. My only point is that it's clearly much slower than other places, and masks are a strong candidate explanation for this

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      2. Nicholas Ptacek‏ @nptacek 6 Apr 2020
        Replying to @Pinboard

        What’s the deal with Japan? I’ve been hearing really mixed messages from people (ex-pats) living there regarding the situation on the ground.

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      3. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 6 Apr 2020
        Replying to @nptacek

        I can only tell you what I see in Kyoto. People are behaving as if there is no crisis, except there are no tourists. School is back in session, public transit is normal, stores and restaurants are full of people.

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      2. giulio rospigliosi‏ @clementix 6 Apr 2020
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        Masks “protect other people from you” - so if most people going out are in masks, most sources of contagion are interrupted. This reduces infection rate. Right?

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      3. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 6 Apr 2020
        Replying to @clementix

        Exactly so.

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