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    1. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 26 Mar 2020

      What we need now to advance the discussion about cell phone surveillance for coronavirus tracking is a technical conversation between epidemiologists and technologists about what is achievable and what is useful. If there's no overlap, then we don't need to fight about the rest.

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      Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 26 Mar 2020

      Basically everyone in tech got their diploma on infectious disease tracking from the Google Institute of Virology over the last few weeks, and epidemiologists have been too busy to dig into the details of bluetooth beacons vs. GPS vs. cell tower triangulation. We should talk.

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        2. Joi Ito's Jibo sez  🧘‏ @JMEightDigits 26 Mar 2020
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          I read your piece about how cell surveillance used by the govt could save lives instead of sell soap, and I was sold. But then someone pointed me to Iceland & Diamond Princess data that shows that 50% of carriers never show symptoms. 1/2

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        3. Joi Ito's Jibo sez  🧘‏ @JMEightDigits 26 Mar 2020
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          I don't *think* that was addressed in your piece. Do you think that changes the calculus at all, either in terms of efficacy or ethics? I think the drop in efficacy changes the ethics, but not beyond my personal threshold- I still think it's worth it. 2/2

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        1. Chris Kanich‏ @kaytwo 26 Mar 2020
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          Tweet us if you find the epidemiologists that have the time to chat. In the meantime us technologists should get a practical writeup in place of the different levels of penetration/accuracy we could potentially get in those 3 cases+wifi-assisted fine grained location.

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        2. Bob Cantoni‏ @cantoni 26 Mar 2020
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          You probably need system-level software; Apple and Google need to start working on an emergency update. No iOS 14 this year — instead, Apple can save the country. If you can get enough bluetooth beacons, location becomes pretty specific.

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        3. Orion Edwards‏ @borland 26 Mar 2020
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          Bluetooth beacons aren’t going to save anyone while the prez is telling his idiot fanbase not to isolate and to carry on going to work

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        1. Justin Mason‏ @jmason 27 Mar 2020
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          can I throw in another plug for the Singapore approach? Reportedly they are working on open sourcing their app's codebase which would provide a great running start for other countries/states

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