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    Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 24 Mar 2020

    Pinboard Retweeted Peter Daou

    What exactly do people think will happen after the country is shut down for a month and the initial outbreak is controlled? We won't just say "well done" and resume our former lives (or in this case, restructure society). We will be stuck in a really difficult position.https://twitter.com/peterdaou/status/1242429682089365504 …

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    The solution is staring us in the face: SHUT DOWN THE COUNTRY FOR A MONTH. GIVE PEOPLE A CHECK AND FORGIVE THEIR DEBTS/RENT/MORTGAGE/TAXES. THEN START RESTRUCTURING THE SYSTEM TO EMPOWER WORKING PEOPLE NOT THE MEGA-RICH. #COVID19 #Coronavirus
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      1. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 24 Mar 2020

        The right wingers have a point that we cannot suspend all activity indefinitely and run an economy entirely on relief checks and health care. So many people are talking about this like it's an acute problem, that requires a few months of sacrifice. It's not like that at all.

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      2. Jonathan Sundqvist‏ @argparse 24 Mar 2020
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        Constant tracking of people and who is infected? Doesn't sound like a very nice prospect either.

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      3. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 24 Mar 2020
        Replying to @argparse

        It isn't. But the alternatives are worse.

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      2. Stan Dyro‏ @standyro 24 Mar 2020
        Replying to @Pinboard

        Why couldn’t we resume our normal lives? Money is an abstraction. Treasury sent ARRA checks in 2009, and the Fed effectively printed money with QE. Why couldn’t we learn from our mistakes and do the same, but better. Oh Wall Street! Privatize the profits, socialize the losses.

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      3. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 24 Mar 2020
        Replying to @standyro

        We couldn't resume our normal lives because the virus would start to spread again in the same uncontrolled way.

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      2. muddletoes‏ @muddletoes 24 Mar 2020
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        The plan is this: ramp up testing ability. Limit travel. Test every sniffle. Localized epidemics will flare up. Lock those localities down and quarantine them. Aggressively trace contacts and isolate them. Over time, herd immunity will start to slow the replication rate.

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      3. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 24 Mar 2020
        Replying to @muddletoes

        Right. This is extremely economically disruptive (even though much better than what we have now). It's one reason I'm calling for using location surveillance to help public health authorities do it less disruptively

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      1. Paul "Cinnamon Roll Theory" Tiseo‏ @paultiseo 24 Mar 2020
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        Ideally, shutdown until we have free tests. Once we have tests, allow controlled return-to-work based on extensive testing, both randomized and key individuals, like healthcare workers, until we have a vaccine. Vaccine everyone for free.

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      1. Stan Dyro‏ @standyro 24 Mar 2020
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        The alternative if we don’t do a national shutdown for 2 weeks or social distancing for at least 3-4 weeks is epidemiologists suggest that we may have hundreds of thousands dead over the next year? (let’s look at the stats from China and Italy—predominantly elderly)

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      2. Ben Rosengart‏ @fivetonsflax 24 Mar 2020
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        Ubiquitous testing, contact tracing. Hard but possible ... once distancing has knocked down the case load.

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      3. John Ripley‏ @jhripley 24 Mar 2020
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        I don't think we're getting back to that being practical for a year.

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