A less embittered way to say this is "the Democratic party leadership has a fairly accurate read on Democratic voters". The problem is that we have to win elections with the electorate we have, not the one we would like to have.https://twitter.com/matthewstoller/status/1235051458652848130 …
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Replying to @Pinboard
lol i mean sure, but also another read is "the Democratic establishment prefers to lose more elections than expand its electorate"
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Expand its electorate with whom, though? Sanders promises voters that never seem to appear at the polls.
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incorrect - Sanders promises general election voters. Primary turnout does not predict general election turnout.https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2016/mar/06/david-brooks/david-brooks-said-primary-turnout-doesnt-predict-g/ …
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Replying to @blackqueeriroh
That analysis holds for traditional voters. If you're promising to bring out new voters, you have show some kind of proof you can do it, somewhere. I too promise to bring out millions of first-time voters in my next national campaign.
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No, you actually don't have to prove it anywhere. Again, you can't use primary turnout to predict general election turnout. You can't predict *at all* how much of that turnout will be new vs previous voters, from what I can tell.
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Replying to @blackqueeriroh
Sanders has had plenty of general elections to prove he can do what he promises. The burden of proof is on any candidate who claims they have a unique turnout strategy.
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how many general elections has sanders been the democratic candidate for President?
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This is special pleading. You're saying Sanders has a magic power to do what no other candidate can, but he can only demonstrate it in one type of election—not his House bids in Vermont, not his Senate races, not the primary. I think you understand it's reasonable to be skeptical
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again, you're not making sense. I have never said it doesn't make sense to be skeptical. I'm not even a Sanders voter. I'm simply saying your priors are wrong. You can't correlate Presidential turnout to any other contest. This is pretty widely known.
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