As @mashagessen wrote not long ago, Americans, especially boomers, are so consumed by Cold War narratives that they can't delink totalitarianism from socialism. Young people maybe just want a better social safety net in a world wrecked by boomers.https://twitter.com/john_sipher/status/1234212548410519554 …
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Fair enough, but there's an argument to be made that by any metric you can quantity Venezuela as socialist, Norway also meets that metric, and that honestly there really is no good definition of "socialism" anymore, including gov't ownership of means: https://www.peoplespolicyproject.org/2019/01/27/norway-is-far-more-socialist-than-venezuela/ …
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I would rather disqualify both countries from the debate since they have a massive petroleum economy. It's like debating the economic value of theocracy using Saudi as an example. It leads to tail-chasing
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