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    1. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 12 Jan 2020

      Hey Pinboard fans who are designers, I'm going to monkey with the site a bit so it looks okay on phones. My CSS is several years out of date and every six months it seems like there was a holy war about how to do it right. Can you point me to a good tutorial on modern approaches?

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    2. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 12 Jan 2020

      My stubborn criteria: * No frameworks or third-party cruft. First-party cruft only. * No javascript * No libraries. Just wholesome CSS best practices from scratch Thank you!

      17 replies 3 retweets 68 likes
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    3. Nathan Hammond 張拿敦‏ @nathanhammond 12 Jan 2020
      Replying to @Pinboard

      IAAFS. (Frontend specialist.) 1. Use BEM. It's a methodology, not a tool. I hate it. It looks and feels awful. I also use it for every site I author. http://getbem.com/ 

      2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    4. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 12 Jan 2020
      Replying to @nathanhammond

      Thank you! I will investigate

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    5. Lemon  🍋‏ @AhoyLemon 12 Jan 2020
      Replying to @Pinboard @nathanhammond

      just some guy with an opinion but I'd highly recommend against BEM in this case. BEM is made for large shops of hundreds of developers agreeing on a verbose but explicit set of rules. It's unwieldy for one person. 2¢

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    6. Nathan Hammond 張拿敦‏ @nathanhammond 12 Jan 2020
      Replying to @AhoyLemon @Pinboard

      I don’t feel like BEM really costs anything other than some verbosity and pays for itself in spades when you have to later figure out how things are wired together.

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    7. Nathan Hammond 張拿敦‏ @nathanhammond 12 Jan 2020
      Replying to @nathanhammond @AhoyLemon @Pinboard

      The other thing is to consider development over time. Pinboard has existed for 11 years and is an archival tool—expecting to exist for many more years. Every six months or so that‘s an entirely fresh look at the CSS: there is no way you remember why you did everything.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    8. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 12 Jan 2020
      Replying to @nathanhammond @AhoyLemon

      Yeeeah every six months. That's right!

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    9. Nathan Hammond 張拿敦‏ @nathanhammond 12 Jan 2020
      Replying to @Pinboard @AhoyLemon

      Hah! Longer durations and you definitely don’t remember why you did anything. 😜

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      Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 12 Jan 2020
      Replying to @nathanhammond @AhoyLemon

      99% of the stylesheets on the site date from 2009

      8:50 PM - 12 Jan 2020
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        2. Nathan Hammond 張拿敦‏ @nathanhammond 12 Jan 2020
          Replying to @Pinboard @AhoyLemon

          Then it’s almost certainly impossible to modify them without being completely unsure of what you’re breaking. I’d consider setting up visual regression testing first (http://percy.io ) before diving in so that you have a baseline for the existing state of the world.

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        3. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 12 Jan 2020
          Replying to @nathanhammond @AhoyLemon

          You are like a humor factory today. Yes, let me add that to the elaborate Pinboard test suite!

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