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    1. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 5 Jan 2020
      Replying to @BeijingPalmer @jasonintrator

      Biden's polling against Trump (48 to 44) is identical to Clinton's polling against Trump at the start of January 2016 (47 to 43). The "boring, mundane reality" of these polls suggests to me that Biden would lose against Trump like Clinton did. What am I missing in your argument?

      2 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
    2. Drord is New Jerseyan, just finds Mississippi neat‏ @Polit_eurOpines 5 Jan 2020
      Replying to @Pinboard @BeijingPalmer @jasonintrator

      well, every other Democrat is doing worse than Biden, so if you want the best chance then maybe you should go for him.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    3. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 5 Jan 2020
      Replying to @Polit_eurOpines @BeijingPalmer @jasonintrator

      That's an entirely different argument, though. I'm trying to understand why @BeijingPalmer thinks this analysis of Biden's poor chances against Trump is so far beneath contempt.

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    4. James Palmer‏ @BeijingPalmer 5 Jan 2020
      Replying to @Pinboard @Polit_eurOpines @jasonintrator

      Because it's blatantly not actually about that but about the wonders of Bernie Sanders, and to the degree that it *is* about that it's essentially yet another projection of the neuroses of 2016.

      2 replies 1 retweet 4 likes
    5. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 5 Jan 2020
      Replying to @BeijingPalmer @Polit_eurOpines @jasonintrator

      The article doesn't mention Sanders or argue that he's a superior candidate to Biden. Maybe all the author's other articles are love poems to Bernie (I haven't read the guy) but from the vantage point of a dispassionate bookmarking site, you're the one projecting neuroses here.

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
    6. James Palmer‏ @BeijingPalmer 5 Jan 2020
      Replying to @Pinboard @Polit_eurOpines @jasonintrator

      Yeah, you need to have read *literally anything else Nathan Robinson writes* to understand this. https://www.currentaffairs.org/2019/10/why-bernie-has-to-win …

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    7. James Palmer‏ @BeijingPalmer 5 Jan 2020
      Replying to @BeijingPalmer @Pinboard and

      "I don’t think I quite realized how much we need Bernie Sanders—or how much I need him, personally—and how desperately urgent it is for us to elect him"

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    8. James Palmer‏ @BeijingPalmer 5 Jan 2020
      Replying to @BeijingPalmer @Pinboard and

      That is, the piece is no more being done in good faith than the regular volleys of pieces by former GOP candidates about how the Democrats are Doomed if they pick a leftist.

      1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
    9. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 5 Jan 2020
      Replying to @BeijingPalmer @Polit_eurOpines @jasonintrator

      Okay, but you're attacking the author's broader political agenda rather than a completely sensible standalone argument about Biden's family baggage. Not knowing the author from a hole in the ground, the article seemed sensible and your attacks on it didn't.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    10. James Palmer‏ @BeijingPalmer 5 Jan 2020
      Replying to @Pinboard @Polit_eurOpines @jasonintrator

      Who - literally who - is going to be swayed by an argument about Biden's family when his opponent is *Donald Trump?* Anybody who believes in Biden's corruption over Trump's is *already* a GOP voter.

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      Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 5 Jan 2020
      Replying to @BeijingPalmer @Polit_eurOpines @jasonintrator

      Since the election may be decided by 50k voters in the upper midwest, I think it's important not to throw away any advantage, however cynical we are about the process. We have candidates who don't have corrupt children who abuse their family connections, why not run one of them?

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        1. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 5 Jan 2020
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          But in the narrower scope of this tweetfight, dude wrote a sensible article that advances a defensible point, whether or not you agree with it. Maybe all his other articles are bad and I look forward to alley-oop dunking with you on them.

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        2. James Palmer‏ @BeijingPalmer 5 Jan 2020
          Replying to @Pinboard @Polit_eurOpines @jasonintrator

          We could make this case about so many things, though! We have candidates who weren't the vice-president of a hugely successful and popular president. We have candidates who put their own family on their staff for years. We have candidates who falsely claimed Native ancestry.

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        3. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 5 Jan 2020
          Replying to @BeijingPalmer @Polit_eurOpines @jasonintrator

          Ladies and gentlemen... the Democrats!

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        2. Drord is New Jerseyan, just finds Mississippi neat‏ @Polit_eurOpines 5 Jan 2020
          Replying to @Pinboard @BeijingPalmer @jasonintrator

          the only candidate with a clear advantage is Biden, so yes, let’s not throw away that advantage

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        3. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 5 Jan 2020
          Replying to @Polit_eurOpines @BeijingPalmer @jasonintrator

          That's a perfectly reasonable argument, too.

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