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    Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 27 Dec 2019

    I want to say something in defense of Bret Stephens: you can argue that IQ is a heritable trait, and that some populations have a higher IQ than others, without claiming any biological basis for it. Before you destroy me, this is not my argument, but it's perfectly defensible 1/2

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      2. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 27 Dec 2019

        Is that what Stephens is doing, or does he think there's some innate racial trait involved? I have no idea, and other things in his column (like chess prowess as a proxy for intelligence) suggest a lack of serious thought. But this essay is worth reading: https://www.nyu.edu/gsas/dept/philo/faculty/block/papers/Heritability.html …

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      3. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 27 Dec 2019

        Among other things, the discussion of IQ in that essay, and why it is such an poor measure for intelligence, is golden. So is the idea that groups can pass along great advantages (or disadvantages) across generations in ways that shadow race but have no physical basis in biology

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      4. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 27 Dec 2019

        The fact that traits can be heritable without being innate is one of the most powerful arguments against sexism and racism, which is why I am wandering into this particular minefield here on a lovely website devoted to building bridges with fellow people of good cheer.

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      2. Cary‏ @caryy 27 Dec 2019
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        why do you want to say something in defense of Bret Stephens

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      3. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 27 Dec 2019
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        I think the linked essay makes an underappreciated point and enjoy any opportunity to share it.

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      1. scott ingel‏ @redwolverines 27 Dec 2019
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        The majority of people assume a certain heritage. It, too often, proves wrong, genetically

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      2. John Ripley‏ @jhripley 27 Dec 2019
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        Having a tiny kernel of truth or doubt is how the right-wing has managed come back into mainstream conversation. It is used as a false equivalence, to gain equal air time, "both sides", and attain legitimacy for a wider, darker argument. In that context, no, it is not defensible.

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      3. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 27 Dec 2019
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        I don't think our lack of vigilance about policing taboos in racial discussion is what brought ethnonationalism to power.

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      1. j 🤦🏽‍♂️‏ @jonshonric 28 Dec 2019
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        hrmm yiss, "perfectly defensible"

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      2. Mark Dewing‏ @markdewing 28 Dec 2019
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        After reading some of the criticisms of the opinion piece, it seems like he made the point while at the same time reinforcing stereotypes of Jews being 'other'.

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      3. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 28 Dec 2019
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        Oh yeah, the piece was awful in all sorts of ways.

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