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    1. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 9 Dec 2019
      Replying to @BeijingPalmer

      What? I'm not trying to be needlessly combative, but none of the reasons you gave make any sense except the second (reliance on elections and laws for redress)

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    2. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 9 Dec 2019
      Replying to @Pinboard @BeijingPalmer

      There's plenty of examples of sustained protest in American history when people cared about an issue. Place has been around for a while and despite the "lack of a central city" or public transit people know where to go march.

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    3. James Palmer‏ @BeijingPalmer 9 Dec 2019
      Replying to @Pinboard

      Only at the state level at best and rarely there. Hasn’t been sustained, get people on the streets every weekend protest on the national level since Vietnam, and even then it was sporadic and limited compared to, say, South Korea

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    4. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 9 Dec 2019
      Replying to @BeijingPalmer

      The Occupy movement was sustained and national

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    5. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 9 Dec 2019
      Replying to @Pinboard @BeijingPalmer

      I agree with you that the U.S. doesn't have a national protest culture and that such organizing attempts quickly dissipate, but I think that the reasons for it have little to do with geography or urbanism.

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    6. James Palmer‏ @BeijingPalmer 9 Dec 2019
      Replying to @Pinboard

      Successful protest countries tend to be places where at least 30 percent or more of the nation is in one city. Biggest US one is, what, 2.5%

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    7. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 9 Dec 2019
      Replying to @BeijingPalmer

      Yeah, they also tend to be ones that use the metric system

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    8. James Palmer‏ @BeijingPalmer 9 Dec 2019
      Replying to @Pinboard

      I don’t think you can dismiss something that makes both logistics and impact so much easier.

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    9. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 9 Dec 2019
      Replying to @BeijingPalmer

      It should be possible to distinguish between the two theories (political culture vs. concentration/geography) by looking at state-level protests, since there is a convenient assortment of states where population both is and isn't concentrated in a central city

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    10. James Palmer‏ @BeijingPalmer 9 Dec 2019
      Replying to @Pinboard

      I think it’s only New York and Illinois that really have this? Anywhere else?

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      Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 9 Dec 2019
      Replying to @BeijingPalmer

      Are you talking about population concentrated in one city? Washington State, Massachussets, Michigan, Colorado, Oregon, Georgia, Minnesota, Pennsylvania all come to mind.

      9:11 AM - 9 Dec 2019
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        1. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 9 Dec 2019
          Replying to @Pinboard @BeijingPalmer

          And the counterexample states with several large cities are California, Texas, Ohio, Florida, Virginia

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        2. James Palmer‏ @BeijingPalmer 9 Dec 2019
          Replying to @Pinboard

          All of these except Minnesota have major cities at about 15% of the population!

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        3. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 9 Dec 2019
          Replying to @BeijingPalmer

          Are you sure you're looking at metro areas and not population within city limits?

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