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    1. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 8 Dec 2019

      American history twitter: has there been any example in the United States of authorities using live fire against political demonstrators since the Jackson State killings in 1970?

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    2. Damian‏ @decryptlyfe 8 Dec 2019
      Replying to @Pinboard

      Has the CCP move to use live rounds in HK? That was the natural evolution in Venezuela when we protested. Tear gas->rubber pellets->live ammo One time they started dropping tear canisters from helicopters and shooting live ammo at us protesting below.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    3. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 8 Dec 2019
      Replying to @decryptlyfe

      It's the HKPF, not the CCP who are the armed force in Hong Kong, which (despite what some people here may say) is a significant difference. I believe the Beijing authorities would be fine with live fire, but the HKPF is reluctant.

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    4. Damian‏ @decryptlyfe 8 Dec 2019
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      Yes, HKPF. They take orders from the CCP tho (even if it's 3 times removed), correct? Have any plans for the inevitable moment HKPF is finally pressured into using live ammo?

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    5. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 8 Dec 2019
      Replying to @decryptlyfe

      The police live here and have an institutional history and culture very different from their bosses. They do take direct orders. No one wants to see live fire used in Hong Kong, and I'm hopeful it won't come to that. The protest-related deaths so far have been terrible enough.

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    6. Damian‏ @decryptlyfe 8 Dec 2019
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      I 100000% agree with you, having said that, my life experience protesting in Venezuela has been quite similar with tragic outcomes. 163 people where killed in 2017 by police forces during protests.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Venezuelan_protests …

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      Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 8 Dec 2019
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      That's just horrible. Whatever keeps the police reluctant here, I hope it may last as long as possible.

      9:42 AM - 8 Dec 2019
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        1. Damian‏ @decryptlyfe 8 Dec 2019
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          Hopefully, but know that now, nobody goes out to protest. The Authoritarians won.

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