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    1. James Palmer‏ @BeijingPalmer 22 Nov 2019

      looking forward to being officially able to call it the First Cold War

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    2. James Palmer‏ @BeijingPalmer 22 Nov 2019

      Acknowledging that this is a new cold war - one started by, and ardently prosecuted by the CCP - is also the only way we start talking realistically about how we fight it and how it ends.

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    3. James Palmer‏ @BeijingPalmer 22 Nov 2019

      We never stopped talking to the Soviets. That's the point of a Cold War - in part, it's a set of mutually-tested limits that keep it from going hot. But like the last time, the greatest burdens are not going to be born by Americans.

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    4. Yakov Feygin‏ @BuddyYakov 22 Nov 2019
      Replying to @BeijingPalmer @CtheLala

      Is it really a Cold War? I don't think that is the right analogy. There is no crystallization of ideology in geopolitics in the same way IMO. It looks way more like the Anglo-German competition on every parameter.

      3 replies 1 retweet 8 likes
    5. James Palmer‏ @BeijingPalmer 22 Nov 2019
      Replying to @BuddyYakov @CtheLala

      See the long discussion with @Pinboard.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    6. James Palmer‏ @BeijingPalmer 22 Nov 2019
      Replying to @BeijingPalmer @BuddyYakov and

      Brief answer: I think this way underestimated the degree to which Beijing ties geopolitical compliance with domestic ideological stability

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    7. James Palmer‏ @BeijingPalmer 22 Nov 2019
      Replying to @BeijingPalmer @BuddyYakov and

      Consider the sheer amounts of time, energy, and money Beijing pours into controlling speech globally - especially, but not exclusively, within the Chinese diaspora. It may not be interested in exporting revolution but it is *keenly* ideological - see Xi, ad nauseum, in speeches

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    8. Yakov Feygin‏ @BuddyYakov 22 Nov 2019
      Replying to @BeijingPalmer @CtheLala @Pinboard

      This is where it gets interesting. I think the diasporic elements of it are where this might play out. But that isn't the same as the Cold War IMO. In fact, it does look much more like the 19th-century world where diasporic politics were very important in power competition.

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    9. James Palmer‏ @BeijingPalmer 22 Nov 2019
      Replying to @BuddyYakov @CtheLala @Pinboard

      But it isn't purely diasporic - it's also directed, for instance, against global corporations, against Muslim nations and Central Asian neighbors - and within international organizations from Interpol to the UN.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    10. Yakov Feygin‏ @BuddyYakov 22 Nov 2019
      Replying to @BeijingPalmer @CtheLala @Pinboard

      Again, this is all very late-19th century to me. That's the period where you find this behavior. Not between 1945 and 1989.

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      Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 22 Nov 2019
      Replying to @BuddyYakov @BeijingPalmer @CtheLala

      I like the Anglo-German rivalry analogy very much.

      6:12 PM - 22 Nov 2019
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        2. James Palmer‏ @BeijingPalmer 22 Nov 2019
          Replying to @Pinboard @BuddyYakov @CtheLala

          this strikes me as totally bizarre and extremely blind to the extent to which ideology permeates CCP behavior

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        3. James Palmer‏ @BeijingPalmer 22 Nov 2019
          Replying to @BeijingPalmer @Pinboard and

          like, this is, in fact, a very large Communist Party that takes being a Communist Party very seriously in its relationship with power and geopolitics, as its own speeches repeatedly say.

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