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    1. James Palmer‏ @BeijingPalmer 22 Nov 2019

      Acknowledging that this is a new cold war - one started by, and ardently prosecuted by the CCP - is also the only way we start talking realistically about how we fight it and how it ends.

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    2. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 22 Nov 2019
      Replying to @BeijingPalmer

      It's a form of the worst nostalgia politics and not a useful tool for understanding a very different geopolitical reality.

      2 replies 1 retweet 4 likes
    3. James Palmer‏ @BeijingPalmer 22 Nov 2019
      Replying to @Pinboard

      Strongly disagree; the first cold war was much more complex, changing, and varied than we paint it as, and looking at and studying from it is extremely important. But the core problem remains.

      1 reply 1 retweet 7 likes
    4. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 22 Nov 2019
      Replying to @BeijingPalmer

      Everything is more complex than the story about it. The cold war was an improvised reaction to a transformative technological leap (nuclear weapons) and had a genuine, transnational ideological core that is simply missing from the plain vanilla great power conflict with China

      4 replies 1 retweet 4 likes
    5. James Palmer‏ @BeijingPalmer 22 Nov 2019
      Replying to @Pinboard

      Getting that ideological core back is one reason to call it a second Cold War - the recognition that this isn't just country-vs-country, but a party that *will always feel threatened* unless it can crush its enemies globally.

      1 reply 1 retweet 9 likes
    6. James Palmer‏ @BeijingPalmer 22 Nov 2019
      Replying to @BeijingPalmer @Pinboard

      John Garnaut has a good summary of the ideological side of this, which is repeated again and again in Xi-era texts - https://sinocism.com/p/engineers-of-the-soul-ideology-in?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=cta …

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    7. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 22 Nov 2019
      Replying to @BeijingPalmer

      The difference in my perception is that there is no content for a non-Chinese audience here. Lenin, Stalin, Mao believed in world revolution. Xi's ideology as far as I can tell is not internationalist at all, but profoundly rooted in Chinese exceptionalism.

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    8. James Palmer‏ @BeijingPalmer 22 Nov 2019
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      And what we're fighting against is the attempts to use that Chinese power - mostly through local elites - to enforce that ideology globally in the ways that matter to the CCP: mostly silence. That's not *identical* to global revolution. But it's close enough for government work.

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    9. Henry Farrell‏Verified account @henryfarrell 22 Nov 2019
      Replying to @BeijingPalmer @Pinboard

      This, by @bentleyballan and others provides one way to think about it - their argument is that China can’t readily provide an alternative global order because it doesn’t have an ideology that resonates with other states -https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/international-organization/article/distribution-of-identity-and-the-future-of-international-order-chinas-hegemonic-prospects/6B178D9A058C016F6C7A50A089AA7290 …

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    10. James Palmer‏ @BeijingPalmer 22 Nov 2019
      Replying to @henryfarrell @Pinboard @bentleyballan

      'keep your people quiet, do as you're told, and we'll help you stay in power' *is* an ideology

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      Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 22 Nov 2019
      Replying to @BeijingPalmer @henryfarrell @bentleyballan

      It's a one-tweet summary of human history. And old school tweet at that, the shorter kind!

      3:25 PM - 22 Nov 2019
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        2. James Palmer‏ @BeijingPalmer 22 Nov 2019
          Replying to @Pinboard @henryfarrell @bentleyballan

          I mean, I hope that if we were to be implausibly confronted by a rising Sassanid Empire or Imperial Rome, we would also find them to be a morally abhorrent opponent that we worked to fight globally.

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        3. James Palmer‏ @BeijingPalmer 22 Nov 2019
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          maybe the ambition here is to, in fact, *be better* than the past

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