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    1. Kong Tsung-gan / 江松澗‏ @KongTsungGan 25 Sep 2019

      What the #HK govt is calling ‘dialogue’ doesn’t fit that definition. For example, HK people had to apply to attend the session w the CE tonight. About 20,000 did. Of those, 150 are selected. Only some of those 150 will be selected to speak.

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    2. Kong Tsung-gan / 江松澗‏ @KongTsungGan 25 Sep 2019

      What kind of ‘dialogue’ is that? What is its point, its purpose? To me, it seems more like her highness magnanimously calling upon a handful of subjects, none of whom are representatives, to air concerns. The format is monarchical, not democratic.

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    3. Kong Tsung-gan / 江松澗‏ @KongTsungGan 25 Sep 2019

      Or, rather, the format is Communist. A central #CCP precept is that an opponent should never be recognized as legitimate. & to meet an opponent is to legitimize him. So #HK govt has strict orders not to engage with protesters in any way that could be seen to legitimize them.

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    4. Kong Tsung-gan / 江松澗‏ @KongTsungGan 25 Sep 2019

      The occasion precipitating the ‘dialogue’ is the protests, but not once over these 3+mo has #HK govt met anyone who could possibly be construed to represent protesters. Those are the people the govt should be holding the ‘dialogue’ w, not randomly selected members of the public.

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    5. Kong Tsung-gan / 江松澗‏ @KongTsungGan 25 Sep 2019

      After the Legco break-in in July, pro-democracy Legco members sent the CE a letter asking for an urgent meeting. To this day, the CE has not even replied to that letter. That is a good indication of how much the govt really values dialogue.

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    6. Kong Tsung-gan / 江松澗‏ @KongTsungGan 25 Sep 2019

      A reservation not infrequently raised about govt meeting the protesters is that it’s a leaderless movement, so who can the govt meet? But actually, it would be quite easy to come up with a fairly representative group:….

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    7. Kong Tsung-gan / 江松澗‏ @KongTsungGan 25 Sep 2019

      Pro-dem Legco members, other pro-dem political groups, Civil Human Rights Front, an LIHKG-selected group, major protest organizers, striking workers, uni student unions, secondary student strikers & religious leaders come immediately to mind. I’m sure you could think of others.

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    8. Kong Tsung-gan / 江松澗‏ @KongTsungGan 25 Sep 2019

      A successful initiative like the @citizenspc shows ‘leaderless, unorganized’ protesters are eminently capable of finding representatives if need be.

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    9. Kong Tsung-gan / 江松澗‏ @KongTsungGan 25 Sep 2019

      That would constitute real dialogue: a meeting about protesters’ demands with a contingent fairly representative of the millions who’ve been out on the streets these past months. Anything short of that is just superficial PR & yet another attempt to dodge the real issues.

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    10. Kong Tsung-gan / 江松澗‏ @KongTsungGan 25 Sep 2019

      I urge media to not simply echo #HK govt’s propaganda about ‘dialogue’. Some critical coverage about the nature of this ‘dialogue’ & how far it is from what protesters would see as constituting the real thing would be a service.

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      Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 25 Sep 2019
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      It's also important to remember what happened to the previous group of movement leaders who met with Carrie Lam for "dialogue".

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