Personally, I think it's nuts that the Internet has grown so centralized that any one company is in a position to make these decisions.
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Let me be a little less oblique. There are many people who work at
@cloudflare besides the CEO. If you can persuade that group to take 8chan down, they will do it, and the CEO can't gainsay it. So engaging that group on terms other than "your company is evil" has some potentialShow this thread
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Forgive me if I don’t take his word for it.
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seems disingenuous
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Matthew Prince personally told (in 2012ish) me that the reason he didn't take down active malware exploits was that they were educational for people- he purposefully tried conflating educational sites with those actually exploiting them.
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And when I say "active" I mean it- we shared PCAP files with them showing that they were not just being shared, but being used to exploit. It didn't matter. At this point Cloudflare, for me at least, has lost the "benefit of the doubt" arguments.
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That argument would be stronger if there was less body count attributable to Cloudflare-powered 8Chan.
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I’m curious about the opinion of law enforcement that work on human trafficking/prostitution—those sites as I understand it get repeatedly taken down and must reconstitute. Does that slow them down? We have years of experience with that—I’d like more than theoretical argument.
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