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    1. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 2 Aug 2019

      Here's a question that's been intriguing me a while. What would be the harms of a ban on end-to-end encryption in mass-market products? People feel safe using Gmail and Telegram routinely for sensitive stuff. What argument do you have for E2E for civilians that really resonates?

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    2. Andrey Fedorov‏ @anfedorov 2 Aug 2019
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      There's no practical mechanism to enforce, as it would allow criminals to use e2e supporting devices (e.g. phones sold abroad) and be harder to prosecute compared to locally aquired devices.

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      Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 2 Aug 2019
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      That wasn't my question, though

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        1. Andrey Fedorov‏ @anfedorov 2 Aug 2019
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          Did you mean in what way will it affect most people directly? It won't, for same reason why people have "sensitive" conversations in public restaurants, etc., because they have little, if anything, to hide. For most, this level of personal security is enough, ...pic.twitter.com/4tohwwUa9x

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        2. Marc “Except You, You're All Right” Whipple‏ @WhippleMarc 4 Aug 2019
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          It only takes a little addition. Police will be more likely to investigate people who can’t use encryption. If criminals are more likely to have it, that means police will be more interested in investigating non-criminals. Because to police, we're all criminals in the end.

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        3. Marc “Except You, You're All Right” Whipple‏ @WhippleMarc 4 Aug 2019
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          Furthermore, since the keys will inevitably get out, criminals and other bad actors will have access to everything that anybody who’s not willing to break the law and use E2E does. You may trust the police - though I’m sure I don’t know why - but do you trust everyone else?

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