I want to make a great case for why E2E is essential for liberty, but a lot of existing arguments don't pass the Gmail test. Help me find better arguments!
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This framing concedes defeat tbh. What's worth arguing is not that privacy will collapse without E2E, but that E2E is the strongest paradigm we've got for next-generation privacy and that people should be moving to it ASAP, including the Gmails and Slacks of the world.
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That sounds like a good foundation for a counter-argument, thank you!
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Gmail etc. are great for usability. Most E2E communication tools still aren't great for
#usability, but as that changes, usage picks up. Most of the privacy risks associated with Gmail etc. are also not widely known & often actively hidden; usability is a clearer decision factor.Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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yeah i don't get the logic: The situation is terrible, so who cares if we give up completely.
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How about government overreach/unstoppable bureaucracy? The Five Eyes stuff you tweeted the other day; Australian government agencies from Tax Dept to libraries are getting warrantless access to metadata. Coupled with the “robodebt” scandal (search twitter for heaps of stories)
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End-to-end encryption is fluoridating the water supply. Poor people couldn't afford fluoride and dealt with more immediate problems. Lots of people who could have afforded it were ignorant of its benefits. Adding fluoride to municipal water supplies was a classic public good.
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I'm a fan of public health analogies but this one is missing the small, but genuine harm (E2E makes it difficult to eavesdrop on people, and they can be very bad people). Fluoridation was not a trade-off in the way E2E is
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