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    1. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 2 Aug 2019

      Here's a question that's been intriguing me a while. What would be the harms of a ban on end-to-end encryption in mass-market products? People feel safe using Gmail and Telegram routinely for sensitive stuff. What argument do you have for E2E for civilians that really resonates?

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    2. Charly‏ @otrahuevada 2 Aug 2019
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      harms? - right to privacy is moot if tools to enforce it are illegal - cost of safekeeping user gen data is huge. - not having it can literally cost thousands of people around the world their livelihoods - making juggling numbers illegal doesn't make the tech to do so go away

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      Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 2 Aug 2019
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      Rebuttals: - right to privacy has always had limits imposed by law - cost is already being borne by the large tech companies - I don't follow this one - tech will become niche and make it easier to identify criminals, a la TOR

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        2. Natanael, tech custodial engineer‏ @Natanael_L 2 Aug 2019
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          Those limits are enforced per occasion, not preemptive. The cost of a system protecting ALL sensitive data behind a single point of failure which needs to tension perpetually perfectly secure would be of obscene

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        3. Natanael, tech custodial engineer‏ @Natanael_L 2 Aug 2019
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          It's absolutely going to leak or be abused, see what China is already doing See above, not everybody caught well be actual criminals. Also, criminals just have to avoid suspicion under such schemes to get away

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