in case it's not already in your feed — this is key https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/20/us/politics/trump-immigration-children-executive-order.html …pic.twitter.com/g2tdOvz5ID
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in case it's not already in your feed — this is key https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/20/us/politics/trump-immigration-children-executive-order.html …pic.twitter.com/g2tdOvz5ID
1. essentially indefinitely detain adults 2. kids can't be detained longer than 20 days 3. can't separate kids from adults can't have all three, so they're throwing out #2 instead of, you know, not aggressively pursuing the goal of jailing as many people as possible
the "problem" they see is that they aren't doing enough to imprison more people even faster and in crueler conditions. the policy issue isn't actually very tricky. once you decide that locking people up is not an important national goal, this whole thing dissolves
The other day I had a bajillion Trumpies in my mentions talking about how "illegals" shouldn't have a "pleasant" experience coming over. This is a national policy of sadism.
Respectfully, I think you are not addressing the point the tweeter was making, which as I understand it refers to the long (and horrifying) infrastructure in place for smuggling people up to the US border, but something unrelated (whether immigrants do crime once in the US)
it's a criticism of amnesty, my point is that mass detention is a far more unreasonable state of affairs than mass amnesty
No, Pinboard was correct about what my point was. But you just did a good job admitting that the goal is not protecting the children, but instead is amnesty for those who break the law by entering the country illegally.
Easily solved by decriminalizing crossing the border.
Alternatively: Cross the border legally, at a designated point of entry. No one wants to stop immigration. They just want it to be documented so that we can properly take care of our immigrants and fellow citizens.
Asylum seekers are being physically prevented from doing this by the Border Patrol. https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/6/5/17428640/border-families-asylum-illegal …
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