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    1. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp 2 May 2018
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      Jeremy Stangroom Retweeted Helen Pluckrose

      Sorry, but this really isn't very good. Admittedly, "postmodernism" is very difficult - perhaps impossible - to summarize, but there's a lot of conflation, misunderstanding, oversimplification, etc, here.https://twitter.com/HPluckrose/status/991684340659707905 …

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      Helen Pluckrose @HPluckrose
      I felt the need to make this. I am meant to be working but I think that making this will save much time currently spent answering this question. pic.twitter.com/vQqyL9Hiw5
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    2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 3 May 2018
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      But this isn't a summary of postmodernism. That was my point. Critics of 'Postmodernism' are really criticising a few ideas which originate from it. Or do you think they're criticising something else? I know some like to conflate it with Marxism.

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    3. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp 3 May 2018
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      Having said that... Standpoint theory, for example, isn't postmodernist. It's Marxist originally. Lukacs-->Hartsock. Actually, Twitter is hopeless for this sort of thing, so I'll shut up! 😀😀😀

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    4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 3 May 2018
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      Standpoint theory appears most strongly right now in feminist epistemology from the likes of Dotson and Fricker and is rooted in critical race theory and intersectionality which are figured (by Crenshaw) as linking contemporary politics with postmodern theory.

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    5. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp 3 May 2018
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      This really isn't the place for this conversation, but somebody like Harding, for example, explicitly contrasts standpoint theory and feminist postmodernism. Fricker explicitly rejects what she calls reductivist approaches...

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    6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 3 May 2018
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      Feminists will always disagree. Fricker herself is accused of being reductive with her 'virtues'. The feminist epistemologists do, however, rely on ideas of positionality for their premises.

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    7. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp 3 May 2018
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      Right, but positionality isn't in and of itself postmodernist. The whole notion of false consciousness is about positionality. The distinction matters because if you're a postmodernist you have no way of arguing that any position is better than any other.

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    8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 3 May 2018
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      This is what people like Crenshaw and Poovey criticised explicitly when they took on postmodernism - that it was politically unproductive to just take everything apart. Some reality needs to exist & some ethics need to be critiqued. Structures of power & privilege exist = bad.

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      Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp 3 May 2018
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      But that's not standpoint theory - explicitly it isn't. The Wikipedia entry is a disaster. Hartsock's original article is a mish mash of Hegel, Marx, Lucaks, Weber (!), Freud, but there's no doubt she thinks a woman's standpoint is more "accurate".

      4:51 AM - 3 May 2018
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        1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 3 May 2018
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          That isn't, no. That's an analysis of society. Standpoint theory is posited as a way to increase the shared epistemic resources by including perspectives which have been missed because knowledge has been constructed by dominant groups within these structures of power & privilege.

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