Jeremy Stangroom

Again, I think your framing is problematic - but within that you are clearly very consistent! I'll stop now .

Framing - Thing is, it's a no-brainer that within institutional settings it's up to people with power - i.e., men - to shut this stuff down.

But it's not something I find interesting enough to comment upon, nor do I think it helps if I add my voice to those saying it.

Justification is straightforwardly utilitarian. HW et al aren't going to stop unless those with power to stop them do something about it.

That will normally be men, and only very rarely will it be those who are victims of harassment.

It's also obvious if men are complicit in development of a "laddish" culture, they contribute to an environment where harassment will occur.

But I'm a veteran of the battles over Page 3, etc., so from my point of view, it's utterly uncontentious, & something sorted out years ago.

Not sorted out in the socio-political sense of being "solved", but as something that might be in doubt. It's not in doubt.