Historical hindsight, obviously, but even so... Just. Plain. Bad.
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If you read any Plato or Aristotle it quickly becomes apparent that most of the arguments they make are just plain bad.
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I'm reading Aristotle on slavery. It's annoying. Mixture of self-serving bias and confirmation bias and teleology run riot.
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To me they always came a crossed as playing word games
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Yeah, the whole Socratic dialog thing, certainly has that aspect.
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Does it get much better later?
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