In other words, lots of people, normally men, get off on collective violence (bonus if it can be justified via an ANTIFA narrative).
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More complicated because you've got to look at motivation for individual participation, which might be linked to means not ends.https://twitter.com/JonHaidt/status/903555497508384769 …
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Means and ends - I think the distinction between the two is often exaggerated. Ethics lies in what is intended (which incorporates both)
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