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    Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp 1 Aug 2017
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    "and probably most people would agree with me about one of them—in each case"... So in what sense are these books overrated?https://twitter.com/prospect_uk/status/892419656455081984 …

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    Prospect MagazineVerified account @prospect_uk
    The most overrated book of all time? "Two are tied for first place," says @danieldennett https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/magazine/the-electronic-age-has-triggered-epistemological-chaos-daniel-dennett-on-the-information-free-for-all-atheism-and-the-point-of-philosophy … pic.twitter.com/Rsxss8hGjO
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      2. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp 1 Aug 2017
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        Okay, there's some wriggle room there... but it's still a curious idea that there would be a consensus about something being overrated.

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      3. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp 1 Aug 2017
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        That's the problem with philosophers. They just don't think very well. 🙂

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      4. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp 1 Aug 2017
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        Breaking the Spell is actually a fairly bad book... I'd say it was certainly overrated by atheists.

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      5. What, Why and How do we Know?‏ @psybertron 1 Aug 2017
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        Yes. Actually a great interview - the epistemic chaos - but pity they brought him back to the four horsemen stuff, not his finest hour.

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      2. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp 1 Aug 2017
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        Okay, because I didn't spell this out... It's odd to say most people agree that the book you think is the most overrated is overrated.

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      3. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp 1 Aug 2017
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        Odd because usually something that is overrated isn't thought by most people to be overrated (because it wouldn't be overrated if it were!).

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      4. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp 1 Aug 2017
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        I'm aware there is wriggle room here, but it's going to amount to the claim that x is overrated by those who rate it, and there are a lot...

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      5. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp 1 Aug 2017
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        of those people. Well yes, but we're talking here about the *most* overrated books, and it remains implausible to suppose that the *most*...

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      6. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp 1 Aug 2017
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        overrated books are thought by a majority to be overrated. What about bloody Harry Potter, for example!?

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      7. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp 1 Aug 2017
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        Mainly, though, I'm not being entirely serious! This is Twitter. I'm only very very rarely being entirely serious. The end. #deepbreath

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      2. Cathy Barry‏ @cathyby 1 Aug 2017
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        I'll go out on a limb and guess one is the Bible.

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      3. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp 1 Aug 2017
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        Yes, it's the Bible and the Koran.

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      4. Cathy Barry‏ @cathyby 1 Aug 2017
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        I suspected the Koran. I suppose if everyone read one or t'other, and all reading one thought the other was over-rated, it would be true.

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      5. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp 1 Aug 2017
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        That's the wriggle room. But if it ends up that a majority of people think both are overrated - then again, it's a curious formulation.

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      6. Serial Banana Citizen‏ @svenosaurus 1 Aug 2017
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        Are you trying to prove that philosophers also don't read very well? Because that's clearly not what Dennett implied.

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      7. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp 1 Aug 2017
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        About what are you talking, Sven?

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      8. Serial Banana Citizen‏ @svenosaurus 1 Aug 2017
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        He implied that followers of each religion would glorify one book and dismiss the other - thus "agreeing" with him on one.

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      9. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp 1 Aug 2017
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        It's broader. He means *non-Muslims* ("most people", not just Xians) would think Koran overrated; and *non-Xians* ("most people")...

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      2. Keith Frankish‏ @keithfrankish 1 Aug 2017
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        each book is overrated by one very large group and dismissed as overrated by another very large group

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      3. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp 1 Aug 2017
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        Right, that's the wriggle room. But there are presumably books that will be overrated by many, but not dismissed as overrated by many...

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      4. Keith Frankish‏ @keithfrankish 1 Aug 2017
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        Yes, though if the overrating is specific to a social group, then it wouldn't be surprising if it's balanced by dismissal among other groups

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      5. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp 1 Aug 2017
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        Right, wriggle room, but formulation still runs into the problem there are presumably other books, overrated, but not balanced by dismissal.

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      6. Keith Frankish‏ @keithfrankish 1 Aug 2017
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        not sure that dismissal by one group cancels out overrating by another; the overrating still exists, has bad effects &c

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