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    1. Serial Banana Citizen‏ @svenosaurus 14 Jul 2017
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      Seems to me that (verbally) "punch up ok, punch down no-no" (and actual threats never ok) is a good, simple, fair and workable rule.

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    2. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp 14 Jul 2017
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      So you'd be happy with somebody being bullied to the point they're contemplating suicide so long as that rule was followed...? Okaaaay.

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    3. Serial Banana Citizen‏ @svenosaurus 14 Jul 2017
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      How do you bully someone more powerful? The point of "punching up" is that the target has abundant resources to "punch" back.

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    4. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp 14 Jul 2017
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      Why are you so keen to defend the appalling behavior of leftists? This isn't the first time. Is it just that the end justifies the means?

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    5. Serial Banana Citizen‏ @svenosaurus 14 Jul 2017
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      I don't know what you mean. I was formulating a general principle. What does left or right have to do with it?

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    6. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp 14 Jul 2017
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      Question - What do you think of the abuse that Diane Abbott suffers? She's an establishment figure, Cambridge Uni, MP, affluent, etc.

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    7. Serial Banana Citizen‏ @svenosaurus 14 Jul 2017
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      Unfortunately I don't know who Diane Abbott is. Based on your description, I guess a member of Congress would be analogous?

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    8. Serial Banana Citizen‏ @svenosaurus 14 Jul 2017
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      I can't imagine any verbal stuff (that's not a threat) aimed at a Congressperson would qualify as bullying.

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    9. Serial Banana Citizen‏ @svenosaurus 14 Jul 2017
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      Doesn't mean it can't be in poor taste or deplorable. E.g. racist/sexist insults are not OK, but for a different reason.

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    10. Serial Banana Citizen‏ @svenosaurus 14 Jul 2017
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      Not because they hurt the politician (who should be able to put up with it) but because they demean a whole class of people w/o such power.

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      Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp 14 Jul 2017
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      I just fundamentally disagree. I think public figures can be hurt. I think we lose good people because of it. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jun/06/diane-abbott-bullying-shadow-home-secretary-attacks …

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        1. Serial Banana Citizen‏ @svenosaurus 14 Jul 2017
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          Yes, there's a tradeoff. I am sure we miss potentially great politicians. OTOH, criticizing power *in any way* is fundamental to democracy.

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        2. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp 14 Jul 2017
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          How about this? http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/angela-rayner-hits-back-at-abusive-emails-over-her-accent_uk_5811d990e4b04660a438156a …

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        1. Serial Banana Citizen‏ @svenosaurus 14 Jul 2017
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          I don't see concrete examples here, but the description doesn't sound worse than what HRC or BHO were getting here, or GWB & DJT if you will

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        2. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp 14 Jul 2017
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          Well, it's certainly worse in the sense that it's predictable it will have a greater impact than that directed towards Trump, for example.

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        3. Serial Banana Citizen‏ @svenosaurus 14 Jul 2017
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          I'm using presidents/candidates as extreme examples, but could find plenty of similar examples a level below, just not sure how...

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        4. Serial Banana Citizen‏ @svenosaurus 14 Jul 2017
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          ...familiar they'd be internationally (like I didn't know about Abbott).

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