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    1. Serial Banana Citizen‏ @svenosaurus 12 Jul 2017
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      What is your definition of "the left"? Because I can't think of one that makes your statement work factually.

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    2. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp 12 Jul 2017
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      That's because you don't know enough! Check out some of the references here: http://markhumphrys.com/left.tyranny.html … (I can't vouch for them all.)

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    3. Serial Banana Citizen‏ @svenosaurus 12 Jul 2017
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      I could argue with some of those a lot, but that's not the point. Either you consider the establishment left/center-left or the far left.

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    4. Serial Banana Citizen‏ @svenosaurus 12 Jul 2017
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      If establishment, they were major cold warriors. If far left, many participated in Russian propaganda in 2016 and are unrepentant about it.

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    5. Serial Banana Citizen‏ @svenosaurus 12 Jul 2017
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      So I don't see which "left" is more anti-Russian today than during the Cold War - even though it would make complete sense (for true left).

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    6. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp 12 Jul 2017
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      There's a whole chunk of Hilary supporters who would have been involved in the anti-war movement in the 1980s, which almost exclusively...

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    7. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp 12 Jul 2017
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      focused on the evils of US imperialism, & which virtually never mentioned the USSR, who are now decrying contact with Russia, etc.

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    8. Serial Banana Citizen‏ @svenosaurus 12 Jul 2017
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      Hmm. I've lived in the US since 1989 and parts of my family have been here since the 1950s, and I literally don't know any1 who was pro-USSR

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    9. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp 12 Jul 2017
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      Probably also different European experience. People weren't pro-USSR as such. It's more that almost exclusively the focus was on the sins of

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    10. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp 12 Jul 2017
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      the West. Partly it's to do with getting your own house in order. But not only. Criticism of the USSR was considered politically suspect.

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      Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp 12 Jul 2017
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      But yes, I was really thinking of the Intelligentsia, plus I guess the anti-war movement.

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        2. Serial Banana Citizen‏ @svenosaurus 12 Jul 2017
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          What's the definition of the anti-war movement? In the US, anything significant ended w/Vietnam war. In Europe I remember a big...

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        3. Serial Banana Citizen‏ @svenosaurus 12 Jul 2017
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          ..anti-nuclear movement in the 1980s, esp. the Greens in Germany (significantly funded by USSR as it turned out). What else?

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        4. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp 12 Jul 2017
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          I was thinking of the 1960s & 1980s. My pics from 1980s here: https://goo.gl/photos/LBKd9HKnbxVkggPm9 … (Also Stop the War Coalition in the UK.)

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        5. Serial Banana Citizen‏ @svenosaurus 12 Jul 2017
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          I see a message calling both sides to disarm, not unreasonable since the world was on the brink of total destruction.

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