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    1. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp 18 May 2017
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      Unless a death is the proximate cause of the cessation of great harm, I cannot understand the impulse to celebrate: http://freethoughtblogs.com/iris/2017/05/18/well-this-certainly-cheered-me-up-roger-ailes-has-died/ …

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    2. Serial Banana Citizen‏ @svenosaurus 18 May 2017
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      Can you understand the impulse to be saddened by the death of a famous person you never knew personally but whose work you admired?

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    3. Serial Banana Citizen‏ @svenosaurus 18 May 2017
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      If that person was no longer actively creating new works, their death is no proximate cause for cessation of benefits derived from them.

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    4. Serial Banana Citizen‏ @svenosaurus 18 May 2017
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      I don't see how the two situations differ. They seem to be exact mirror images of each other.

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    5. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp 18 May 2017
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      The two situations differ because being saddened by a death is *not* the same as celebrating a death. Morally, emotionally, different.

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    6. Serial Banana Citizen‏ @svenosaurus 18 May 2017
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      Mirror images, as I said. Mutatis mutandis. Sadness and joy are symmetrical feelings, aren't they?

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    7. Serial Banana Citizen‏ @svenosaurus 18 May 2017
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      Rationally, it doesn't make sense that many people felt sad when Harper Lee died. But it's a pretty normal human reaction.

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    8. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp 18 May 2017
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      Right. But joy/sadness at a person's death or suffering (regardless of whether we know them), aren't *morally* equivalent.

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    9. Serial Banana Citizen‏ @svenosaurus 18 May 2017
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      You are emotionally indifferent to 99.999% of human deaths. You'd go insane if you weren't.

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      Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp 18 May 2017
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      I nursed for a while. I never met a nurse who was indifferent the death of somebody with whom they had established a personal relationship.

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        2. Serial Banana Citizen‏ @svenosaurus 18 May 2017
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          Of course. But the main issue is deaths of people we never knew personally.

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        3. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp 18 May 2017
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          Not for me it's not. I don't find it surprising we react to the deaths of people we don't know.. We react to death of characters in novels!

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        4. Serial Banana Citizen‏ @svenosaurus 18 May 2017
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          Yes but that's because the novel is designed specifically to make us personally relate to its characters.

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        5. Serial Banana Citizen‏ @svenosaurus 18 May 2017
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          On the other end of the spectrum are beneficial deaths like Hitler's or Stalin's. But more relevant, how did you react to Pol Pot's death?

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        6. Serial Banana Citizen‏ @svenosaurus 18 May 2017
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          I remember feeling somewhat sad/angry that Pol Pot was able to die free, in old age, and of natural causes.

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        7. Serial Banana Citizen‏ @svenosaurus 18 May 2017
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          That's a stronger reaction than the ephemeral joy at reading about a disliked person's death.

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        8. Serial Banana Citizen‏ @svenosaurus 18 May 2017
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          Another example: disappointed that Milošević died before he could be convicted of war crimes. Also a stronger reaction.

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        9. Serial Banana Citizen‏ @svenosaurus 18 May 2017
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          Compared to those reactions (which I believe are very normal), the fleeting verbal "grave dancing" seems rather trivial.

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