it's vacuous to say “you don't love free speech” if what's merely disagreeable speech for you is a threat/incitement to me
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Replying to @_attlee
It isn't vacuous in 2 senses: (a) if de facto we consistently draw the boundary in very different places (such that I tend to...
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"allow" much more speech than you; and (b) if there is a fact of the matter about whether certain speech is threat/incitement.
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I don't agree. If the leader of the BNP instructs of mob of skinheads to go "paki bashing", then that's incitement. Easy.
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i don't understand what you think grounds the distinction - e.g. do you think "Paki's should be bashed" is an incitement?
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Well, that certainly isn't something we could sort out on twitter! But I don't believe you really would think the BNP leader - or
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equivalent - was not inciting (particularly if said skinheads then murdered some Asian guy). If I'm right, then you do think there
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are contexts where the proposition is truth-apt. It's overwhelmingly those contexts that I'd think should be legislated.
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But I'm not sure there's necessarily much at stake here. I do think legislation is a restriction on free speech, and where the line
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is drawn will determine the extent to which it's reasonable to say free speech is or isn't a major concern.
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whether he’s inciting depends on whether there’s an intention to incite, not on the consequences of the utterance
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