Jeremy Stangroom

@SIN_Notung Is he trying to push Labour to the left?

@PhilosophyExp He just seems to think that we can all organise and work magic to make things better. Deluded.

@SIN_Notung starts from the assumption that Labour could have won given this particular set of circumstances. That's not the least bit clear

@PhilosophyExp It's as if they think the polls were the true opinion back then, but everyone changed their minds come election day.

@SIN_Notung "consumer model" of voting is bollocks. Not how it works.

@PhilosophyExp Oh yeah, you mean that it's not true that "do the correct things (better than your opponent) and you'll win"

@SIN_Notung In other words, even in 1997, there was effectively nothing the Tories could have done to win in 2001. Or indeed, 2005.

@PhilosophyExp And if one of the main parties can't do anything, what hope does that give us individual voters?