@SteveCooke If it's a matter of tribal loyalty, then surely it doesn't need any extra motivation...
@SteveCooke Agreed. But in almost all the discussions I've seen about the issue, people agree that obvious, extreme drunkeness means rape.
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@SteveCooke Yes, possibly. Plus, there's something about football culture, & the way women are seen that is... problematic. -
@PhilosophyExp very much so, but thankfully that is (very slowly) improving.
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