If I say "try and avoid street X, there have been violent attacks there", is that victim blaming?
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@PhilosophyExp@sjzara@AndrewDEvans I left my ipod in plain site and my car got broken into. -
@JustinSiegel2@sjzara@AndrewDEvans You *wouldn't* be culpable for the theft, but you would be culpable for your carelessness. -
@PhilosophyExp@JustinSiegel2@AndrewDEvans That helps me understand - thank you. -
@sjzara@PhilosophyExp@JustinSiegel2 but are these analogies really transferable? -
@AndrewDEvans@sjzara@PhilosophyExp@JustinSiegel2 your lack of good judgment doesn't lessen the crime. They are independent. -
@toxicpath@AndrewDEvans@sjzara Yes, that's the point. But risk taking isn't *necessarily* morally culpable (dangerous sports, again). -
@PhilosophyExp@toxicpath@sjzara but don't you think advice that focuses exclusively on the victim feeds into and supports a rape culture? -
@AndrewDEvans@toxicpath@sjzara Plus, it's not a zero-sum issue - advice on staying safe doesn't preclude other strategies. - 5 more replies
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@PhilosophyExp@AndrewDEvans@sjzara And what if they were assured the street was safe? What if reports of its danger were supressed? -
@underverse@PhilosophyExp@sjzara that's not really the point. Shouldn't you focus on why the street is unsafe? -
@AndrewDEvans@PhilosophyExp@sjzara I think you are misconstruing me. I'm arguing that responsibility requires good data. -
@underverse@AndrewDEvans of Iraq, for example). You can be culpably ignorant. -
@PhilosophyExp@AndrewDEvans That's an insane analogy. Where for example is the crime the US military was a victim of? -
@underverse@AndrewDEvans Eh? I'm not sure what we're talking about here! It wasn't supposed to be any kind of analogy. (Not being snarky.) -
@PhilosophyExp@AndrewDEvans We're talking about the culpability (or lack thereof) of someone who has been wronged. The subtext is obvious. -
@underverse@AndrewDEvans Sorry, it wasn't obvious to me, so clearly I'm not going to be able to cope with this conversation. Such is life. - 8 more replies
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@PhilosophyExp@sjzara@AndrewDEvans Doesn't seem like telling me not to leave valuables in plain site is victim blaming.Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@PhilosophyExp@sjzara to what degree is someone culpable of being violently attacked?Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@PhilosophyExp@sjzara@AndrewDEvans It acknowledges a problem and suggests you avoid it.Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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