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    Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp 17 Sep 2014
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    Does the moral obligation to save a drowning child mean you've got to give up your IPads & Doctor Who DVDs? Find out! http://bit.ly/SNdb2C 

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      2. Jon‏ @crackedblack 18 Sep 2014
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        @PhilosophyExp @philosophersmag Who says saving the "drowning child" is an obligation?

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      3. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp 18 Sep 2014
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        .@crackedblack 97.05695% of people who complete the activity think saving drowning child is an obligation.

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      4. Simon Tuffen‏ @SimonTuffen 18 Sep 2014
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        @PhilosophyExp Interesting test. My difficulty is I don't think we coldly consider whether it's a "moral obligation" when it's immediate.

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      5. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp 18 Sep 2014
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        @SimonTuffen True. But it doesn't ask whether you would save the child - who wouldn't, right? - it asks whether it's obligated.

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      6. Simon Tuffen‏ @SimonTuffen 18 Sep 2014
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        @PhilosophyExp You make very good points!

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      2. Jon‏ @crackedblack 18 Sep 2014
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        @PhilosophyExp @philosophersmag option for action. Why not call for help? Through a rope? Reach with a a stick? What if I have a fear of...

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      3. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp 18 Sep 2014
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        @crackedblack But the interest isn't in what you would do in real life, it's in your moral intuition about this highly abstract example.

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      2. Jon‏ @crackedblack 18 Sep 2014
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        @PhilosophyExp @philosophersmag of other people when they don't agree with the actions you think they should take is wrong. There are...

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      3. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp 18 Sep 2014
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        @crackedblack Oh, I'm quite happy to say that if you don't rescue the child in the scenario described, you're doing something wrong.

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      1. Roland Harris‏ @rolandjpharris 18 Sep 2014
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        @PhilosophyExp Another consideration-what if pulling child to safety makes child more likely to engage in dangerous (unsustainable) swimming

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      1. Jon‏ @crackedblack 18 Sep 2014
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        @PhilosophyExp @philosophersmag I'm not a moral nihilst, as you wish to call me. I don't agree with your, or Peter Singers', definition.....

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      1. Jon‏ @crackedblack 18 Sep 2014
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        @PhilosophyExp @philosophersmag of duty. What happened to learning from mistakes? Tempering knowledge and intelligence through error. ....

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        @PhilosophyExp @philosophersmag Your child is "seemingly drowning". How much time do you allow to elapse before you decide they are....

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        @PhilosophyExp @philosophersmag drowning? Thought problems are nearly worthless when they take out all possibilities the real world may ...

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        @PhilosophyExp @philosophersmag present. Of course so many people would be "obligated" in your experiment when you do give any other ....

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        @PhilosophyExp @philosophersmag open water? Your tests leave no other options that have "good" outcomes. So they show nothing as to how...

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        @PhilosophyExp @philosophersmag other actions in the "real" world can have good outcomes without my direct intervention. Your judgements...

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