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    1. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp Sep 2
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      Okay, well this isn't a good start.pic.twitter.com/M4ltx3WYmR

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    2. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp Sep 2
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      And it gets worse...pic.twitter.com/dCtpD8w5ZY

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    3. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp Sep 2
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      Okay, so we've got a sexual division of labor - but what is it that women produce with their labor? Well, partly, like men, they contribute to subsistence, but... oh dear,pic.twitter.com/s2iF9AaZeT

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    4. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp Sep 2
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      Women as mothers... just how significant can that be, right? Turns out Hartsock likes a bit of object relations theory (and you're totally going to need a trigger warning for this):pic.twitter.com/owxmXUDGUj

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    5. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp Sep 2
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      Hartsock now goes a bit bonkers with the psychoanalysis, but basically argues that girls end up with more empathy, and are more connected to others, less dependent on an idealized conception than boys (concrete femininity versus idealized masculinity), etc.

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    6. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp Sep 2
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      Regardless of the whole "terf" thing, this stuff is really dodgy actually. Way too essentialist, and bordering on misandry, I reckon. But I digress. This'll give you a sense of the "cisnormative" (I know all the lingo) character of the argument:pic.twitter.com/qmoIMOcgLF

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    7. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp Sep 2
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      Later on Hartsock riffs on Bataille, and the centrality of biology, and the psychodynamic interplay the occurs as a result, is absolutely explicit. She's talking about the male experience of reproduction. (This stuff is fairly batty.)pic.twitter.com/ntQLI6IIFh

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    8. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp Sep 2
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      Okay, I think that's enough to demonstrate that Hartsock should be considered at the very least "Terf-adjacent", and that her work should be verboten in the wokiest of philosophy departments. Trigger warnings, that's what it needs! You're welcome.

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    10. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp Sep 2
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      I don't think she could write this today without a significant backlash. That's the point. Do you?

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      Also, tangentially, it gets bloody close to misandry (in my view), which is interesting because it's not treated in the same way that an explicitly misogynistic theory would be treated.

      7:40 PM - 2 Sep 2019
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        2. Lauren Pleska  🏳️‍🌈‏ @RadFemme74 Sep 2
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          The acceptance of misogyny in the work of philosophers hasn't really been a problem in philosophy has it? Gee wonder why. Can't imagine why.

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        3. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp Sep 2
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          Lauren, the points you're making are obvious, you don't need to make them explicit. I'm aware that philosophy has a terrible history with regards to misogyny (Aristotle, j'accuse!).

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