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    1. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp Sep 2
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      I don't get it. Straight men really really really like looking at semi-naked women. How are you going to police the male gaze in mixed changing facilities? Overtly, covertly, men will be looking. https://twitter.com/r_a_mckinney/status/1168568733746417670 …

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    4. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp Sep 2
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      I understood the local point you were making. I was puzzled by your remarks on enforcing laws against voyeurism. Maybe you just meant men who were peering under doors that kind of thing? Not the everyday male voyeurism that women quite reasonably want to escape sometimes?

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      I know. My point is that men will be looking for opportunities to look at half-naked women. Many, many men. So: 1. It's reasonable for women to want spaces where they can escape that. 2. If you're going to construct non-segregated changing areas, you better get it right.

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          I thought you were arguing that we shouldn't aim at sex-segregated public spaces, rather we should look to prosecute voyeurism. My argument is we need sex-segregated spaces - swimming, exercise classes, changing rooms, etc - because you can't police (prosecute) the male gaze.

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          I've just read your tweet again. It reads as though you think prosecuting voyeurism is what's required, not sex-segregated public spaces. If a Muslim woman wants to swim without males looking at her how is prosecuting voyeurism going to help? Maybe I'm missing something.

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          Maybe your point was narrower - not that there are no circumstances where sex-segregated public spaces might be a good, but rather we don't rule out many non-segregated public spaces because of risks of voyeurism, we (should) just come down hard against voyeurs. Is that it?

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          Understood. Thanks for taking the time to explain. I was genuinely puzzled (I had read the whole thread).

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