Latsot in really very good comment shock: https://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2019/08/09/awesome-band-becomes-awesomer/#comment-2006353 … And the violent rhetoric of Myers & his commentariat, most of whom would faint dead away at merest hint of violence, or indeed going outside, is pathetic.
-
Show this thread
-
Vigilante violence is almost always wrong. Part of the reason is that by definition it has none of the checks & balances required to ensure retribution is proportionate (which is the lowest hurdle you need to clear before you can even get started on a defence of retribution).
1 reply 1 retweet 9 likesShow this thread -
You don't know anything about the random Nazi in the street you want to maim. You know nothing about his childhood, education or mental health. You have no idea whether he was brought up in appalling circumstances. Yet despite this you claim the right to maim him. Well fuck you.
3 replies 0 retweets 7 likesShow this thread -
Replying to @PhilosophyExp
Hmm. Sure we've all been to gigs where this sort of bigot turns up. When drunk their true selves show. Not advocating violence normally, nor calling this heroic, but these guys look for trouble. And it's late, can't show much sympathy.
1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @unlikelyloafer
I've been at gigs where these sorts of guys were a feature not a bug! :)
1 reply 0 retweets 1 like -
Replying to @PhilosophyExp
Intriguing. I used to be straight edge in my youth and we didnt tolerate nazi stuff, often ended in violence. As I got older I realised it was a kind of tribalism, and excluding behaviour. Oft3n done to show off to the easily impressed.
1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @unlikelyloafer
Wasn't that just an extension of warring youth cultures - mods & rockers, skins vs. everybody else, etc?
1 reply 0 retweets 1 like -
Replying to @PhilosophyExp
Yes. Lots of it was transient but there was something nasty about certain types of skins/Nazis which wasn't going to fade in time.
1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @unlikelyloafer
Right. In the UK, in the early 1980s, I managed to get beaten by a gang of skins. I'd been on an ANL demo, & ran into this group who were targeting ethnic minority people on Liverpool Street Station (in London). They didn't take kindly to badges & slogans I was naively wearing.
2 replies 0 retweets 1 like -
Replying to @PhilosophyExp
There used to be a really heavy NF presence at NUFC at around that time, my team, and there was a lot of reaction to it. Majority were appalled - quite rightly. The violence was similar - attacks on individuals or small groups. Never hear anything like that any more.
2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
You should have a read of the chapter on the National Front disco in Bill Buford's "Among the Thugs". Nick Griffin makes a special appearance!
-
-
Replying to @PhilosophyExp
It sounds like an Alan Partridge pitch. Or something Ross Kemp would observe. Will give it a browse. Cheers.
0 replies 0 retweets 1 likeThanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
-
Loading seems to be taking a while.
Twitter may be over capacity or experiencing a momentary hiccup. Try again or visit Twitter Status for more information.