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    3. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp Aug 7
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      The idea academics shouldn't makes arguments that might undermine people's own understanding of who they are is infuriatingly ludicrous. It rules out the denial of the existence of the soul, e.g. - it might upset Christians for whom souls are central to their self-understanding.

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    4. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp Aug 7
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      Or what about arguments against the Islamic notion of tawhid? Muslims are a marginalized group, religion is fundamental to their identity, so are arguments that bring the central tenets of that faith into question allowed? If they are, then why not gender critical arguments?

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    5. Lucy HunterBlackburn‏ @LucyHunterB Aug 7
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      The soul is about as good an analogy as analogies get, to my mind. Hard to argue that it’s not intrinsic to a person’s sense of self.

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    6. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp Aug 7
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      It's absolutely fundamental to how many (most?) religious people see themselves. And de facto destroying the ghost in the machine can precipitate an existential crisis in the person who no longer believes. But nobody seriously thinks this rules out criticizing dualism.

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    7. Lucy HunterBlackburn‏ @LucyHunterB Aug 7
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      And (in most formulations?) denying it in myself is equivalent to denying that they have theirs, as their belief fundamentally requires everyone to have one.

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    8. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp Aug 7
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      Yes. And if you add that sort of thought to the work of Asch on conformity, I think you begin to get to an explanation of why there is absolutely zero tolerance of dissent on the part of the gender identity crowd. (One dissenster breaks the spell, basically.)

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    9. Lucy HunterBlackburn‏ @LucyHunterB Aug 7
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      Don’t know Asch (where would I best start?) but I’ve been thinking a lot lately about the contrast with my (many) very strongly religious friends over my life who have not been at all threatened my definite if non-haranguing atheism. Something means they don’t need “the spell”.

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    10. Lucy HunterBlackburn‏ @LucyHunterB Aug 7
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      I’ve had lots of brilliant conversations with people who are much more seriously religious than 80-90% of population. They are often just pleased I think it matters to think about this at all. I’ve probably stirred *more* unease/confusion in people who are not actively religious.

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      Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp Aug 7
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      It's a good question, the difference with religion. I can't really give a sensible answer - I'd just be making it up for Twitter. I have a few ideas, but need to think a bit more about it.

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        1. Lucy HunterBlackburn‏ @LucyHunterB Aug 7
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          Ditto.

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