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    1. Dr. Jane Clare Jones‏ @janeclarejones Jul 31
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      Dr. Jane Clare Jones Retweeted Stephen Geigen-Miller

      I am so fucking done with male people telling female people that it is irrelevant to them whether people are male. Oblivious male privilege on a goddamn stick.https://twitter.com/Stephen_GM/status/1155876735755440128 …

      Dr. Jane Clare Jones added,

      Stephen Geigen-Miller @Stephen_GM
      Replying to @itsallariddle @RadFemme74 and 48 others
      For most people I meet on a daily basis, the distinction is irrelevant. I don't need to know what's in most people's pants to know how to treat them, and the suggestion I should is creepy, to be frank. :-)
      15 replies 109 retweets 573 likes
    2. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp Jul 31
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      Replying to @janeclarejones

      Also, it's just a lie - or at the very least self-delusion - anyway. The vast majority of (straight) men are highly tuned to whether the people with whom they're interacting are male or female.

      2 replies 1 retweet 38 likes
    3. Simon Tuffen‏ @SimonTuffen Jul 31
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      Replying to @PhilosophyExp @janeclarejones

      Whether it's the truth, a lie, or self-delusion, I don't see how it's an example of "privilege".

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    4. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp Jul 31
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      Replying to @SimonTuffen @janeclarejones

      Well, it's the asymmetricality. For example, I can sit on public transport without worrying that some male is going to stick a camera between my legs. If I walk about NYC on my own, not much chance I'm going to be cat-called (though there was an incident with a tie dye t-shirt).

      2 replies 1 retweet 21 likes
    5. Simon Tuffen‏ @SimonTuffen Jul 31
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      Replying to @PhilosophyExp @janeclarejones

      I agree with that point, although Stephen Geigen-Miller did specify that his point related to "most" people he interacted with, which presumably means he also acknowledges there are circumstances where gender/sex distinction is important.

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    6. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp Jul 31
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      Replying to @SimonTuffen @janeclarejones

      Well, I was responding to Jane's more general point. But my general view is that male sexuality is fairly rapacious, & we tend to be highly attuned to the sex of the people with whom we're interacting (so males change their behaviour around females, etc).

      2 replies 0 retweets 8 likes
    7. Simon Tuffen‏ @SimonTuffen Jul 31
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      Replying to @PhilosophyExp @janeclarejones

      I agree we instinctively react differently to the sex of the people with whom we interact, but on a cognitive level we can decide not to care - if it isn't relevant to the situation.

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    8. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp Jul 31
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      Replying to @SimonTuffen @janeclarejones

      But if you're a lone woman interacting with a stranger who might be a man, you can't decide not to care. That's the point. I think it's difficult for us (males) to imagine ourselves in that situation.

      1 reply 1 retweet 17 likes
    9. Simon Tuffen‏ @SimonTuffen Jul 31
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      Replying to @PhilosophyExp @janeclarejones

      Lone woman + strange man = of course.

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    10. Dr. Jane Clare Jones‏ @janeclarejones Jul 31
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      Replying to @SimonTuffen @PhilosophyExp

      Right, and the point is that any woman going about her daily business is surrounded a great deal by strange men... we are constantly aware of it... telling women to not care about the sex of other people is contrary to our entire experience of the world.

      1 reply 2 retweets 24 likes
      Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp Jul 31
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      Replying to @janeclarejones @SimonTuffen

      Yes. And, of course, even men who are not strangers, who you think you know...

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        1. Dr. Jane Clare Jones‏ @janeclarejones Jul 31
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          Replying to @PhilosophyExp @SimonTuffen

          Quite.

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