I am so fucking done with male people telling female people that it is irrelevant to them whether people are male. Oblivious male privilege on a goddamn stick.https://twitter.com/Stephen_GM/status/1155876735755440128 …
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Replying to @janeclarejones
Also, it's just a lie - or at the very least self-delusion - anyway. The vast majority of (straight) men are highly tuned to whether the people with whom they're interacting are male or female.
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Replying to @PhilosophyExp @janeclarejones
Whether it's the truth, a lie, or self-delusion, I don't see how it's an example of "privilege".
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Replying to @SimonTuffen @janeclarejones
Well, it's the asymmetricality. For example, I can sit on public transport without worrying that some male is going to stick a camera between my legs. If I walk about NYC on my own, not much chance I'm going to be cat-called (though there was an incident with a tie dye t-shirt).
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Replying to @PhilosophyExp @janeclarejones
I agree with that point, although Stephen Geigen-Miller did specify that his point related to "most" people he interacted with, which presumably means he also acknowledges there are circumstances where gender/sex distinction is important.
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Replying to @SimonTuffen @janeclarejones
Well, I was responding to Jane's more general point. But my general view is that male sexuality is fairly rapacious, & we tend to be highly attuned to the sex of the people with whom we're interacting (so males change their behaviour around females, etc).
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Replying to @PhilosophyExp @janeclarejones
I agree we instinctively react differently to the sex of the people with whom we interact, but on a cognitive level we can decide not to care - if it isn't relevant to the situation.
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Replying to @SimonTuffen @janeclarejones
But if you're a lone woman interacting with a stranger who might be a man, you can't decide not to care. That's the point. I think it's difficult for us (males) to imagine ourselves in that situation.
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Replying to @PhilosophyExp @janeclarejones
Lone woman + strange man = of course.
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Replying to @SimonTuffen @janeclarejones
Right, in which case there are strong arguments in favour of preserving female only spaces. Factors that would weigh in favor include: likelihood of being alone; vulnerability; likelihood of being exploited by biological males (e.g., mixed changing facilities)...
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possibility of trauma (e.g., sheltered housing for victims of sexual assault); etc. Not saying the arguments are necessarily decisive, but they certainly have legs. Holding that biological males should be excluded from certain spaces doesn't automatically make a person a bigot.
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