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    1. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp Jul 15
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      Is this really any different from the New Romantics of the early 1980s (for example)?https://twitter.com/stonewalluk/status/1150329084695797760 …

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      "Do what you feel." - listen to the wonderful @fabjamiefab discussing what life is like in the present moment for the awareness and acceptance of non-binary people. #NonBinaryDay #ThisIsWhatNonBinaryLooksLike #ComeOutForLGBT #Stonewall30 @SkyCreative pic.twitter.com/ttgC98OhIM
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    2. Shatterface‏ @Shatterface Jul 15
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      The difference is that the New Romantics knew they were just dressing up. Same with Bowie in the Seventies, and Glam Rock, and right back to the Dandies a century earlier.

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    3. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp Jul 15
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      Maybe. But Boy George & Marilyn, for example, were certainly not (initially) forthcoming about their gender, etc. Also, the language of binary/non-binary wasn't available to them. If it had been...

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    4. Shatterface‏ @Shatterface Jul 15
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      Boy George and Marilyn have always been clear they are make; Annie Lennox has always been female. Many artists hid their sexuality but they didn’t deny their sex.

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    5. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp Jul 15
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      I could be misremembering, but my recollection is that when Boy George first arrived on the scene there was speculation about his sex, which he wasn't in a hurry to clear up. It was only when he began to get big interviews he made it clear.

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    6. Shatterface‏ @Shatterface Jul 15
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      He was well known on the club scene in the UK. I don’t recall his sex ever being a mystery.

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    7. Shatterface‏ @Shatterface Jul 15
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      Partly because the UK is so small, I think the relationship between fans and performers has always been more intimate than the US. You can get from one end of the country to the other in a matter of hours.

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    8. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp Jul 15
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      I grew up in London in the late-1970s/early-1980s, but different sort of music. Prog rock & then prog rock revival. So missed out on a lot of the popular culture stuff.

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    9. Shatterface‏ @Shatterface Jul 15
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      I was a punk then a goth in the Eighties. There were still a few teddy boys around then, and skinheads used to hang around reggae clubs with their Black friends.

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      Ha! Remember the Tim Roth character in Made In Britain (the film), with his black mate? I was attacked by a bunch of skinheads in Liverpool Street Station because I'd been on an Anti-Nazi League thing, and they were waiting targeting naive fools like what I was! 😂😂😂

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        1. Shatterface‏ @Shatterface Jul 15
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          This is England wasn’t far off. I was more punk at the time we’d usually end up in a largely Black club because it was open till about 4am. Plenty of skins. Not that some weren’t openly racist; more towards Asians though.

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          Fights between punks and skins only happened outside the club. Nobody wanted to be barred from the only club open in miles.

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          History tends to divide the groups into easy categories. I didn’t change from punk to goth, I just started wearing darker clothes. I still listened to Souxie and the Banshees. Punk and skins overlapped too. Everyone wore Doc Martens.

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