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    1. Jeffrey Flier‏ @jflier Jul 2
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      In the world of 1984, the cartoonist would have been vaporized, and all evidence of his work and existence would be removed from the record. I guess we still have a way to go. #1984https://twitter.com/jflier/status/1146018607845040128 …

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      Jeffrey Flier @jflier
      I’ve enjoyed sharp political cartoons my entire adult life- this anti-Trump cartoon is as good as the art form gets- Cartoonist let go from N.B. newspapers days after Trump image goes viral. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/cartoonist-fired-nb-newspapers-trump-cartoon-1.5196179 …
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    2. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp Jul 2
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      Vaporized? Not wanting to be a pedant, or anything, and it's a long time since I read 1984, but isn't part of the horror of the story that dissenters are broken psychologically rather than killed? They are remade so that they no longer remember their opposition to Big Brother?

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    3. Jeffrey Flier‏ @jflier Jul 2
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      Vaporization was Winston’s term for people disappearing (half way through my reread) - a major element of which was what you describe. Whether murdered or transformed into a mindless shell who loves Big Brother and has no unique identity, vaporization seems like a fine term.

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    4. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp Jul 2
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      Ah! Thanks, I'd forgotten that. Maybe not surprising given that I think I actually last read it in 1984! 🙂

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    5. Jeffrey Flier‏ @jflier Jul 2
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      I last read it in 1964, and I find the re-read far more disturbing and powerful. I know a lot more today than I did then.

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      Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp Jul 2
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      I'll have to look at it again. I remember at the time I didn't think it was psychologically plausible, and I was more impressed with Huxley's Brave New World. But... given the events of recent history, I should probably revisit that judgment!

      5:02 AM - 2 Jul 2019
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        1. Jeffrey Flier‏ @jflier Jul 2
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          I plan to reread Brave New World after 1984. Girding myself for the battles ahead.

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