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    Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp Jun 27
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    Here's the thing. Men have been doing bloody awful things to women since pretty much the beginning of history. It's outrageously regressive to suggest that the sex binary is a modern invention, an insult to the memory of the countless women who have died at the hands of men.

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      2. Seneca‏ @jdanielhansson Jun 27
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        Did Ellis possibly mean the "gender binary"? We have to change DNA if we want to change sex, but men's and women's roles in society are influenced by culture and have varied historically.

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      3. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp Jun 27
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        I don't think he knows what he means. He does explicitly say in a subsequent tweet something to the effect that the sex binary is a cultural creation, which obviously it isn't (except to the extent that all concepts are specified in language, etc).

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      4. Seneca‏ @jdanielhansson Jun 27
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        It kind of reminds me of Wittgenstein and William James that the root of disagreements are often linguistic.

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      2. Stephen Corry‏ @StephenCorrySvl Jun 28
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        A view: There are societies in the world, usually small-scale and mobile peoples, where there is far more gender equality. What we see as "our history" is only a part of humanity's response to how to live. It's patriarchal and nasty, but it's not inevitable.

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      3. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp Jun 28
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        Well it's not "our" history, the history of many, many diverse societies is the history of conflict. Plus, though I understand the attraction of the Margaret Mead vision, I don't buy it. Human beings, mainly men, slaughter each other.

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      4. Stephen Corry‏ @StephenCorrySvl Jun 28
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        There are other studies of peaceful societies. If killing each other was always the norm how could the species have survived at all?

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      5. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp Jun 28
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        Because we haven't quite perfected it! I'm not denying that there are tribal societies that are relatively harmonious. Is it not the case that they are normally fairly isolated?

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      6. Stephen Corry‏ @StephenCorrySvl Jun 28
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        Well, we all live in our bubble of one sort or another, but there are plenty who go to great lengths to avoid conflict (though are usually aware that there are other peoples around who, errr.... don't).

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      1. Kit‏ @Female_prole Jun 28
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        Thanks Jeremy. Nice one.

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        Please try to watch the doco series #ascentofwoman - brilliant history

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      1. Vigor Gateway‏ @vigorgateway Jun 27
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        Ha... Flipside Track

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      1. Ron Green‏ @Rongreen5 Jun 28
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        Men have been doing awful things to men as well. In fact to anyone deemed weaker. Countless men have died at the hands of men.

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      1. Seneca‏ @jdanielhansson Jun 28
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        Here is another thought that came to me. If men are only a product of their sex, why have most of us stopped doing awful things to women?

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      1. Nikita‏ @NikitaBadger Jun 29
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        Being a woman can be tough, but everyone has different experiences and things about them that people will bully or pick on or target. Sometimes we just need to be nice and make our own safe spaces where we can be comfortable and share that with the people we love 💕

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      1. GenderDissenterfmtheSchoolofMagdalenBernsⓋ‏ @LadyLoveLDN Jun 29
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        Thank you Jeremy for like acknowledging context & reality x

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      1. claire 33 years‏ @Claire1997reece Jun 29
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        A man that talks some bloody sense!! Thank you!! Clearly raised right!

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      2. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp Jun 27
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        Thanks, it's appreciated. But really, as you suggest, it's not warranted. I can turn off my computer, & all this nincompoopery goes away (which obviously isn't the case for women, generally, & for gender critical feminists, in particular, whose livelihoods are often on the line).

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