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Jeremy Stangroom
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    1. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp Jun 9
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      Jeremy Stangroom Retweeted FairPlayForWomen

      It really is perilously close to a conversion narrative if you suggest that lesbians ought to be open to the idea of having sex with people with penises. Sexual attraction is (almost always) embodied. It's not directed at another person's perception of their own identity.https://twitter.com/fairplaywomen/status/1137624393251733504 …

      Jeremy Stangroom added,

      FairPlayForWomen @fairplaywomen
      "‘It’s belittling our history that now men are claiming they are lesbians. If they are encouraging lesbians to have sex with men then, as far as I’m concerned, that is being heterosexual." https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7119867/amp/NHS-safer-sex-guide-women-sleep-women-issues-mind-boggling-advice.html …
      3 replies 7 retweets 41 likes
    2. '); DROP Ţ̸͓̠̼͖̖̆ͫ̑̒̿ͪ͞A̐͏̠̫͔̰̖ͅͅB̉͌͒̈LE name; --‏ @fardarter Jun 9
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      It doesn't seem close to that at all.

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    3. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp Jun 9
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      Why not? If you tell people they ought to be attracted to bodies of a particular sex. That's the beginning of a conversion narrative.

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    4. '); DROP Ţ̸͓̠̼͖̖̆ͫ̑̒̿ͪ͞A̐͏̠̫͔̰̖ͅͅB̉͌͒̈LE name; --‏ @fardarter Jun 9
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      Because that's not what's being said. I have heard people say that, and that's bad and wrong, but a whole point of the movement is that "woman" doesn't map to the traditional biology. So reading it as "lesbians are people who are attracted to women, and therefore not being /1

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    5. '); DROP Ţ̸͓̠̼͖̖̆ͫ̑̒̿ͪ͞A̐͏̠̫͔̰̖ͅͅB̉͌͒̈LE name; --‏ @fardarter Jun 9
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      which is what the article is doing when it identifies the penis as a relevant matter. Now, there are people who will say that focusing on the genitals in sexual attraction is objectification, but I don't see that surfaced here and those people can fuck off.

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    6. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp Jun 9
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      Yes, I understand how the argument by redefinition is going to work. But even if I accept it, which I don't, it doesn't matter. Once you grant that gay men, for example, ought to be open to vaginas in their sex life, you've made the first move in a conversion narrative. 1/

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    7. '); DROP Ţ̸͓̠̼͖̖̆ͫ̑̒̿ͪ͞A̐͏̠̫͔̰̖ͅͅB̉͌͒̈LE name; --‏ @fardarter Jun 9
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      Again, don't think that's what's being said here. And I agree it is something that does get said. Think you're only following half the circle of the redefinition and then are equivocating on the redefinition in the normal language cases.

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      Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp Jun 9
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      Twitter isn't the best for this conversation, because I don't really understand your argument. Send it by DM if you feel inclined, because I'm curious. My DMs aren't open, but I'll look out for yours.

      3:10 AM - 9 Jun 2019
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        1. '); DROP Ţ̸͓̠̼͖̖̆ͫ̑̒̿ͪ͞A̐͏̠̫͔̰̖ͅͅB̉͌͒̈LE name; --‏ @fardarter Jun 9
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          Sent some. I do need to dash now though. Can pick this up later.

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